gear ratio help

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Alwayz420Me

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I need help after adding a zoom bicycles shiftkit yeah I know should've gone with the SBP instead but hey live and learn. Anyways. on to my problem I have the nexus 3 speed internal hub. I live in some huge hills and my shiftkit craps out in second yet first won't get the job done. I have the boost bottle which helped but still no help I wanna try a expantion chamber but I would also like to change my gearing. I have seen a 9 tooth for the chainring side but I want more hill power does anyone know about inward chainring upgrades and should I change my rear freewheel set too? I am about to give up.

Help in cherry valley CA.
 

5-7HEAVEN

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Don't give up. Someone here can help you.

Firstly, tell us what you have for all your sprockets. This includes chainring, engine sprockets and rear hub sprocket. Also, the ratios for your hub.

What kind of engine do you have? If Happy Time, an excellent start would be an SBP expansion chamber.drn2
 

5-7HEAVEN

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Okay, I went ahead...

More than likely, your Nexus hub has a 19-tooth sprocket on its hub. Underdrive gear is 1.36:1 and overdrive is .73:1...

The 19t/36t chainring relationship = .528:1...

10t/44t chainring = 4.4:1...

10t/17t jackshaft = 1.7:1...

Standard engine gearing = 4.1:1...I think...

Soo, 4.1 x 1.7 x 4.4 x .528 = 16.192:1...

We'll keep (4.1 x 1.7 = 6.97:1) as a constant value that we won't change.

Multiply 16.192 by 1.36:1 = 22.02:1 underdrive. Okay for flat road, not good for huge hills...similar to running a Happy Time 54-tooth rear sprocket...

16.192:1 x 1.00:1 = 16.192:1 in second...similar to a 39-tooth sprocket...

16.192 x .73 = 11.82:1...similar to a 29-tooth sprocket...

LET'S DO SOME CHANGES!

Change your rear hub sprocket to a 23-tooth. Then 23/36 = .639:1...

6.97 x 4.4 x .639 = 19.6:1...

19.6 x 1:36 = 26.66:1, similar to a 65-tooth sprocket...

19.6 x 1:1 = 19.6:1...similar to a 48-tooth sprocket...

19.6 x .73 = 14.31:1...similar to a 35-tooth sprocket...

Good improvement, but for huge hills, here's my recommendations...

For AWESOME hillclimbing, switch your chainring to a 72t sprocket in 8mm chainsize, along with an 11t sprocket on the jackshaft. That gives you a 6.45:1 ratio, up from 4.4:1...

Switch the hub sprocket from 19t to 23t. 23/36 = .639:1...

6.97 x 6.45 x .639 = 28.73:1...

In underdrive, 1.36:1 x 28.73 = 39.07:1, similar to using a 95-tooth sprocket...

Your 1:1 ratio is 28.73:1, similar to a 70t rear sprocket...

In overdrive, gearing is 20.97:1, akin to a 51t Happy Time rear sprocket...

Of course, your cruising speed will suck...

Sooo, if wanting decent cruising with excellent hillclimbing...

Use 63t chainring with 11t in 8mm chainsize = 5.73:1...

Use 23t rear hub sprocket and 36t chainring = .639:1...

6.97 x 5.73 x .639 = 25.52:1...

Underdrive = 25.52 x 1.36 = 34.71:1, similar to a 85t rear sprocket...

1:1 = 25.52:1, similar to a 62t sprocket...

Overdrive is 25.52 x .73 = 18.63:1, akin to a 45t rear sprocket.

For starters, you could just change the 19t hub sprocket to a 23t sprocket. Gear ratio would lower from 16.192 to 19.6:1.

Underdrive ratios would change from 22.02:1 to 26.65:1. This is like swapping a 54t sprocket to a 65t sprocket.

The 1:1 ratio is like changing a 40t sprocket to a 48t sprocket...

Overdrive gear is like swapping a 29t sprocket to a 35t sprocket...

Some stuff to think about. There IS a way to improve your performance. Just realize that super-low gears will help you climb huge hills. However, they will lower your cruising speed.

All this should cost you about $50. Changing the 23t sprocket only costs $9.00.
 
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Alwayz420Me

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Wow.... thanks you just made my brain hurt.but this info is very very helpful I will hit the bike shop in the morning. Do you think the SBP carb is worth the money