#41 Chain, Very Good

fredgold52 · Mar 20, 2012

I just wanted to restate what I found with a Swap from 410 and 415 chain to 41. 41 is totally and completely better.
> It runs quieter
> It is more forgiving about sprocket alignment and wobble.
> It has less sideways bending or flexing.
> It is relatively inexpensive.
> Master links and half links are readily available.
> It has a higher tensile strength than the others.

That pretty much sums it up. Hope this helps someone who is contemplating making this change. Do it, you'll like it.

.wee.

The_Aleman · Mar 21, 2012

I'd definitely rather run 41 than 415...but I love 410 because it's available in complete halflink form and it's light.
Halflink chains offer finer adjustment and are really smooth on small sprockets, but they are expensive.

I'm not a fan of running a half-link on any regular chain. They stretch different and can increase "chain dance", which accelerates wear.

You have to have your chainline dead-straight to run a 410 on a chinagirl 2-stroke tho! #41 is the way to go

GearNut · Mar 21, 2012

The #41 chain that The Aleman suggested from Ace Hardware is surprisingly good quality too.
http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/productDetails.aspx?SKU=70246

moonerdizzle · Mar 21, 2012

41 chain from fleet farm is the only chain i run on motorbikes. its cheap enough and i have never broke one, even after i neglected to clean it all winter long and it looked like it was more rust and road salt than chain.

sportscarpat · Mar 21, 2012

I run #41 Diamond brand chain on all my builds, even on the pedal side. Good stuff.

KCvale · Mar 21, 2012

Ummm... 41 vs 410 chain? They are the same thing are they not?

Sure, there is 415, it is wider and stronger but it could have just as easily been called 41.5, but for 410 makers they can easily drop the 0 and call it 41 on their packaging.

There are certainly many kinds of 410 chain, some better for many reasons like stronger connecting pieces and better rollers, personally I like KMC Z410 or their 410 BMX chain. Diamond also makes pretty good chain.

I tried 1/2 link chain briefly, it still sits in a box somewhere, it was just to frustrating to work with for me.

Anyway, unless I am really out of touch 41 and 410 are the same thing.

The_Aleman · Mar 21, 2012

No, 41 and 410 are not the same. 41 is 1/4" between inner side plates, 410 is only 1/8". 415 is 3/16".

fredgold52 · Mar 21, 2012

I was trying to post the chart, but it didn't work very well. KCvale,, take a look at this site please. I am afraid your information is very wrong.

http://www.azusaeng.com/chain/mcyclchn.html

Len455 · Mar 21, 2012

I went to 41 to replace the crappy chinease junk and i love it. My sprocket is so ou of whack and i runs hreat, nice and quiet to.

Len455 · Mar 21, 2012

And it was only a dollar 75 at te local dirt bike shop

2door · Mar 21, 2012

sportscarpat said:
I run #41 Diamond brand chain on all my builds, even on the pedal side. Good stuff.

Ditto:
Diamond or Morse #41 chain is all I'll put on my bikes.
Tom

Jamesgregory · Mar 28, 2014

Hi all
I am wanting to replace the chains on my bike with a better chain. I have been told that a #41 is a good replacement. Here is my question. My bike came with the 415 chain in the kit. Will the #41 Chain work in this motor as a replacement? What if anything needs to be done to make it work. Also if this chain is that good can it be used on the peddle side with no modifications??

GearNut · Mar 28, 2014

It will work fine. I have a Tsubaki 415 on my chinagirl and a Daido 41 on my 4 stroke.

2door · Mar 29, 2014

As I posted above, back in 2012, #41 is the best route when choosing a chain. But, it is not meant to be a band-aid for sprockets that are out of alignment or not installed correctly. If there are wobbles or the sprocket is not installed concentric to the rear hub you're going to have problems with any chain.
Alignment and tension are critical to any roller chain drive system.

Tom

KCvale · Mar 30, 2014

2door said:
As I posted above, back in 2012, #41 is the best route when choosing a chain. But, it is not meant to be a band-aid for sprockets that are out of alignment or not installed correctly. If there are wobbles or the sprocket is not installed concentric to the rear hub you're going to have problems with any chain.
Alignment and tension are critical to any roller chain drive system.

Tom

So true Tom, even though I am not a storefront retail MB business and specifically point out I don't sell MB parts I get calls all the time from people with broken 415 chain and just have to scratch my head.

As far as I am concerned 415 is overkill in most MB cases of a proper build, HD 410 Like Z80 or Diamond works just dandy and far easier to work with, you can break it with a bicycle chain breaker.

You need a near catastrophic drive train failure to break a 415 and if that is the case you have a far more serious problem than just needing new chain.

But to repeat the answer yes #41 chain will fit 415 sprockets.

maniac57 · Mar 30, 2014

Jamesgregory said:
Hi all
I am wanting to replace the chains on my bike with a better chain. I have been told that a #41 is a good replacement. Here is my question. My bike came with the 415 chain in the kit. Will the #41 Chain work in this motor as a replacement? What if anything needs to be done to make it work. Also if this chain is that good can it be used on the peddle side with no modifications??

You may find the bigger #41 will rub under the clutch cover. This is easily fixed by taking a notch out of the cover with a grinder or dremel for clearance.
Here's a link: http://motorbicycling.com/showthread.php?p=480220

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