Show us your "Fred Head"... Here is mine.
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Show us your "Fred Head"
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My favorite China girl race bike made and raced by nashmoto with a Fred Head of course!
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I only run his twin plug heads on both my bikes.
I only run his twin plug heads on both my bikes.
Honestly I don't know. Some say that if one plug fowls you have another ready to go. Seems to me that if one plug fowls the other is fowled too. Dual plug heads have been around for a long time and have never caught on. I figure there is a reason they are not popular...
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Two plugs = two sparks and better combustion supposedly. I doubt you can tell a difference on a chinagirl since it is in such a mild state of tune. The hotter spark from the better coil and cdi setup is what makes it better, more so than the twin plugs. In a high end race motor, two plugs can improve power slightly, but I don't believe it would make the slightest difference on a chinagirl.
It sure looks cool though!
It sure looks cool though!
Some pics of my build on the link below with an original Fred Head. One of the first runs I believe. This one have over a 1,000 miles on it.
http://motorbicycling.com/showthread.php?t=44863&page=5
http://motorbicycling.com/showthread.php?t=44863&page=5
Actually my camera has two shutter buttons. One is for standard photography, manual mode etc and the other is photographer mode. If you hit that button it takes artistic style pics randomly.Those are some great model shots. Are you a professional photographerI just got my elbow and ditch tattooed so I won't be doing anything on my bike for awhile seeing as I can't bend my arm
My tattoo artist keeps flying off to Europe for tattoo conventions but she should be staying put for awhile, I can feel the need for another tattoo coming on lol.
Dan.
took these pics on a ride last saturday... wasn't too cold (45F) if dressed right, felt good to get out for a ride
as i havent been for at least a month and a half ... i ever mention "i hate winter"
mines the first gen. i'm very happy with it
job well done Fred
as i havent been for at least a month and a half ... i ever mention "i hate winter"
mines the first gen. i'm very happy with it
job well done Fred
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Unless you're running two coils......and even then, what's the point?
I had a 1971 CZ 250cc that had two plugs and two coils.....and even with the Mikuni carb conversion it was one of the hardest 2-strokes to start and there is no advantage too running 2 sparkplugs, with or without 2 coils......really, there's not!
Running two plugs with one hooked up to a coil, the one plug fouls, so does the other one......moot point.
I had a 1971 CZ 250cc that had two plugs and two coils.....and even with the Mikuni carb conversion it was one of the hardest 2-strokes to start and there is no advantage too running 2 sparkplugs, with or without 2 coils......really, there's not!
Running two plugs with one hooked up to a coil, the one plug fouls, so does the other one......moot point.
While I agree in principle with scotto about both plug seeing the same conditions, I have owned several dirtbikes over the years with two plug heads and I have found myself thankful for the spare plug more times than I can remember.
While I still think it's a waste of money to make parts this nice for a chinagirl, the two plug setup could at least save you a pedal home due to a fouled plug.
This level of craftsmanship and quality on a china motor is like chrome plating a turd in my opinion. When you're done spending, it's still just a shiny turd.
But to each his or her own. I'll use the extra cash to build many, many china girls, some use it to build one really shiny chinagirl.
But in the end, it's all about what kind of turd YOU want.
While I still think it's a waste of money to make parts this nice for a chinagirl, the two plug setup could at least save you a pedal home due to a fouled plug.
This level of craftsmanship and quality on a china motor is like chrome plating a turd in my opinion. When you're done spending, it's still just a shiny turd.
But to each his or her own. I'll use the extra cash to build many, many china girls, some use it to build one really shiny chinagirl.
But in the end, it's all about what kind of turd YOU want.
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Scotto #1 you are wrong the Fred's Twin plug Head only uses 1 coil with the lighting CDI made for twin plug. it is a Coil off of a banshee.
now a 2nd point and I have to go to my roots the 4 stroke world for this. I once built 2 ford 2.3 turbos for a dude to test in 2 mustangs he had the only difference in these 2 motors was one had 8 plugs the other had 4 plugs. This project was done by myself and 2 other guys one a engine machinist the other a port and polish expert. it was done because the owner of the 2 cars wanted to see if there was any advantage to the 2 plugs per cylinder. long story shout when the 2 cars were done. the twin plug head car was .2 tents faster in the 1/8 mi and got 7 mpg better then the one with a single plug did.
not much at all but if I have the money Ill take any advantage I can.
Im looking forward to getting my twin plug head here in about 1 month or less.
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I had to go find this and post it to my FB page so I could post it here but here is a short vid of a friends Twin plug on a china girl.
https://www.facebook.com/motorized.bikes.1
https://www.facebook.com/motorized.bikes.1
