agk hydraulic brake

GoldenMotor.com

deonsrace

New Member
Apr 1, 2014
221
0
0
Miramar
Had to replace the 33" hose for a longer one. Ive been bleeding this brake with the vacuum pump. And now it does not have any pressure. I dont know if im missing one of the steps in bleeding brakes. But there is no pressure coming onto the lever or pads for stopping. Any suggestions guys?
 

Venice Motor Bikes

Custom Builder / Dealer/Los Angeles
Mar 20, 2008
7,271
1,810
113
Los Angeles, CA.
I had a similar problem bleeding mine... Don't use a vacuum bleeder... Place the caliper HIGHER than the lever (so the bubbles go up) & bleed out all the air by repeatedly squeezing the lever (& re-filling). ;)
 

23tiny

New Member
Aug 8, 2011
27
0
1
california
or you can put a long hose from the caliper or bleeder screw and submerge it in a little bit of brake fluid. Make sure the master is always full, pump up the brake 10 times and hold the pressure and then open the bleeder screw releasing the bubbles. Continue this process until you get good brake pressure.
Hope this helps.
 

2door

Moderator
Staff member
Sep 15, 2008
16,302
175
63
Littleton, Colorado
I've never had good luck with a vacuum bleeder. Getting the caliper higher than the master cylinder, like Venice suggested is easy on a bike system. Not so easy on a car.

I'd block the pads so they don't push out too far. Use something as thick or a little thicker than the rotor. (this might be redundant on your caliper. I'm not familiar with the design).

Tom
 

Venice Motor Bikes

Custom Builder / Dealer/Los Angeles
Mar 20, 2008
7,271
1,810
113
Los Angeles, CA.
The problem is that air bubbles get trapped in the brake lever (& in the caliper) & don't get pushed out when bleeding. :(
Thats why holding the calper higher (so the bubbles rise) works. ;)
 

Davezilla

New Member
Mar 15, 2014
2,705
10
0
San Antonio Texas
I don't use vacuum bleeders either... most the time they just won't work..
What I've done before that works great is to run some aquarium tubing from the bleeder valve up to the master cylinder and submerge that end in the fluid, then pump the lever until all bubbles are gone, if you go too fast tho it'll whip up little tiny air bubbles and send them back into the system.
Another trick that works on really stubborn systems is to reverse bleed them by hanging a bottle of fluid above the master cylinder level and connecting a tube to the bleeder valve, then let gravity do the rest. This trick is very effective but it will overflow the master cylinder if left unattended, this is also a slower process but it works.
 

Davezilla

New Member
Mar 15, 2014
2,705
10
0
San Antonio Texas
I had a similar problem bleeding mine... Don't use a vacuum bleeder... Place the caliper HIGHER than the lever (so the bubbles go up) & bleed out all the air by repeatedly squeezing the lever (& re-filling). ;)
I like this idea too, it's similar to the reverse bleed method I use on stubborn systems and I may need to use this method on one of my motorcycles since it's extremely tough to get all the air out of the rear caliper.
 

deonsrace

New Member
Apr 1, 2014
221
0
0
Miramar
Ok I did Venice idea. Bubbles come out now I pump lever and fluid pumps out the reservoir. Does this mean no more air in the line?
 

deonsrace

New Member
Apr 1, 2014
221
0
0
Miramar
On this hydraulic brake I really have to mash the lever hard to come to a roll stop. Should it really be this hard to stop. And im not even going fast. 15mph tops. More air in the lines?
 

runnermike

Member
Nov 18, 2012
936
0
16
Sanford, FL
No, you should not have to mash the lever hard. If you have a LBS that deals with hydraulic brakes they more than likely will bleed it for you. Just a suggestion..

It took me about a good 20 mins of bleeding, filling, pumping lever, and repeat. But, the thing stops on a dime now!
 

KCvale

Well-Known Member
Feb 28, 2010
3,966
57
48
Phoenix,AZ
On this hydraulic brake I really have to mash the lever hard to come to a roll stop. Should it really be this hard to stop. And im not even going fast. 15mph tops. More air in the lines?
This may sound silly but..

How are the disc pads?
Is the caliper aligned properly?
How about your brake lever pull adjustment?

Just other things to check after major brake work.
 

deonsrace

New Member
Apr 1, 2014
221
0
0
Miramar
2 stroke build. yz80 or KT100

Just recently I finshed a 212 race bike. Now im on to bigger better and faster thing's, im trying to decide if I should do a china girl, yz80, or the vintage KT100 which one should I build now and advice is great thanks!
 

young grease monkey

New Member
Sep 20, 2011
362
0
0
Chicago
you should do a yz85, it has a power valve unlike the yz80. this means better low end torque. or a 125 would be cool, but probably too much power for a bike frame. you will need some real strong wheels for just a yz 80 or 85
 

KCvale

Well-Known Member
Feb 28, 2010
3,966
57
48
Phoenix,AZ
Re: 2 stroke build. yz80 or KT100

Just recently I finshed a 212 race bike. Now im on to bigger better and faster thing's, im trying to decide if I should do a china girl, yz80, or the vintage KT100 which one should I build now and advice is great thanks!
You could try a MotoPed.
It's a nice motorcycle frame, with pedals ;-}