First build, my plan/your advise?

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This will get you everything you need to 'shift' ---- except the bike and engine kit. A frame with a good amount of room with a rigid rear suspension will make things lots easier. I believe that you will need a couple of inches between the seat post and the rear wheel for clearance for the jackshaft.

Good luck in your build!!

Mgardner1991 said:

I'm open to any bike, but would like it to be a 21 speed beach cruiser. If there is one from walmart that a lot of people use/recommend? Or even a inexpensive make/model I might find in any local bike shop?

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Besides a quality bike to start with you won't find for $100 at Wallyworld, forget about the front derailleur, your motor kit adds one lever (clutch) and one twist control (throttle) to your handlebars and it already has one of each on each side so something has to go or you end up with a joke of an unsafe user control mess.
Read this. http://motorbicycling.com/showthread.php?t=46843

Personally I like a Macargi Pantera as a solid quality base for direct drive or shifters, about $240.

Direct Drive:
The left sprocket hole fits perfect over the 7-speed hub to make alignment a breeze and no front shift controls to dick with.



Shifter:
Though the 7-speed gears work fine for pedaling to help for direct drive the tendency for many riders with a strong engine is power shifting through every gear on a shifter and the thin 7-speed chain just gives out.
They work just dandy if you shift easy and skip a couple gears each time but most of my shifter build customers opt for the extra trade in $50 3-speed internal hub wheel replacement so I can use HD 410 chain and 3 gears is plenty.

Can I run a chain drive motor in the gears so that I can shift the gears with the motor driving them? I want to be able to start in a low gear and shift it as I speed up to rear gears to pedal gears? Or what that cause pedals to always turn?

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A shift kit costs as much as the motor, far from easy to install right without mechanical skills and the right tools but gears change everything.
To keep your pedals from turning with the motor a freewheel is used between the dual sprockets and the pedals so your pedals just ratchet in place when the motor is powering the dual chainrings to the back wheel.
That freewheel is a crucial power transfer part and a cheap one will fail with over 2HP thrown at it, the HD freewheel is 3 times as much and darn near half the cost of a SBP shift kit but needed for strong motor.

I don't have a budget, but under 300$ would be great. I have plenty of mechanical knowledge and access to most any tools.

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(just smiles) I suggest you decide now what is important, quality or cost, because despite those here that will say their $99 Wallyworld Huffy Carnbrook with a cheap E-bay motor kit is awesome I have a bone yard full of other peoples builds that failed before they even broke them in but they were not hobbyists that wanted to tinker, they simple wanted something reliable and were sorely disappointed.

It's your bike, your build, your budget, your decision. Personally I find the extra $ money on initial parts worth far more than replacement parts that will come up when I factor in the time and aggravation factors ;-}

...here ya go man.

PANTERA 7-SPEED
MEN'S BEACH CRUISER

, bozo

KCvale said:

Besides a quality bike to start with you won't find for $100 at Wallyworld, forget about the front derailleur, your motor kit adds one lever (clutch) and one twist control (throttle) to your handlebars and it already has one of each on each side so something has to go or you end up with a joke of an unsafe user control mess.
Read this. http://motorbicycling.com/showthread.php?t=46843

Personally I like a Macargi Pantera as a solid quality base for direct drive or shifters, about $240.

Direct Drive:
The left sprocket hole fits perfect over the 7-speed hub to make alignment a breeze and no front shift controls to dick with.

Shifter:
Though the 7-speed gears work fine for pedaling to help for direct drive the tendency for many riders with a strong engine is power shifting through every gear on a shifter and the thin 7-speed chain just gives out.
They work just dandy if you shift easy and skip a couple gears each time but most of my shifter build customers opt for the extra trade in $50 3-speed internal hub wheel replacement so I can use HD 410 chain and 3 gears is plenty.

A shift kit costs as much as the motor, far from easy to install right without mechanical skills and the right tools but gears change everything.
To keep your pedals from turning with the motor a freewheel is used between the dual sprockets and the pedals so your pedals just ratchet in place when the motor is powering the dual chainrings to the back wheel.
That freewheel is a crucial power transfer part and a cheap one will fail with over 2HP thrown at it, the HD freewheel is 3 times as much and darn near half the cost of a SBP shift kit but needed for strong motor.
(just smiles) I suggest you decide now what is important, quality or cost, because despite those here that will say their $99 Wallyworld Huffy Carnbrook with a cheap E-bay motor kit is awesome I have a bone yard full of other peoples builds that failed before they even broke them in but they were not hobbyists that wanted to tinker, they simple wanted something reliable and were sorely disappointed.

It's your bike, your build, your budget, your decision. Personally I find the extra $ money on initial parts worth far more than replacement parts that will come up when I factor in the time and aggravation factors ;-}

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"(just smiles) I suggest you decide now what is important, quality or cost, because despite those here that will say their $99 Wallyworld Huffy Carnbrook with a cheap E-bay motor kit is awesome I have a bone yard full of other peoples builds that failed before they even broke them in but they were not hobbyists that wanted to tinker, they simple wanted something reliable and were sorely disappointed."

This is pretty much true. I get great results from cheap stuff but I've been doing the two-stroke thing my entire life. Most people won't get anything like the miles I get from proper setup and maintenance. I strongly urge anyone wanting a reliable bike to spend a little more if you don't have a LOT of mechanical knowledge. The better quality the equipment you start with, the better your chances of having a good build. Do some research and find a bike that fits your needs and budget before you jump.

if you want qualty and cheap I would say check out craigs list but rember if you go that route most likely you will need at the very least tires and tubes. also Id grease the wheels before I road a used bike with a new motor on it.