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Old 03-17-2017, 12:00 AM
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Default Electric Start Hidden Wire Build On a Cranbrook.

Ok, I bought this Electric start Bullet Train engine a year ago out of shear curiosity and it laid around collecting dust for many reasons. A person does not need electric start but thought it would be just be cool and be great if the fairer sex want to ride one of these motorized bikes. But... I hated to build a bike with that god awful big wiring box that holds the CDI, regulator, and solenoid plus fuse, tons of big bulky wire clips. I am now challenged.

So tonight I started the build on a sharp looking candy apple red Cranbrook with flat black rims and fenders that cost me 74.00 and free shipping... not sure how that works as the bike is steel with the heavy duty 12 gauge spokes and is a very solid bike. I am adding front and rear pull brakes and will bob and shorten the flat black fenders. and freewheel the coaster hub. In the last picture is all the components hung on my temp template that will be replaced with flat black plastic panels that match the contours of the bars. No or bolts will show on my final tank panels,

Here are the problems:
1 the engine doesn't fit perfect yet at first blush but will make it work
2 my idea about placing the electrical components directly on the frame would work but how will I hide the wires. here is my idea I will run with and hope it wont fail.
I always strive for clean builds and am determined to pull it off.
here is what I am planning.
A) take the components out of the box and reassemble the junk in the top bar area and use black expanded plastic to to make kinda a fake tank to hold the
Bazillion ugly wires clips and all the bulky electrical components .
So I made a cardboard template to see if the stuff all fits. It does barely, so I am going to go with this plan and use a rear gas tank to not interfere with the clean lines. That it for tonight.
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Old 03-17-2017, 08:07 AM
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Default Re: Electric Start Hidden Wire Build On a Cranbrook.

Looks good from here, Lol. That will be nice when done. ................Curt
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:13 AM
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must be getting kinda crowded in your shop !!
jeech, i believed i had it bad, after 4 now i'm taking a break...
that fake tank should hide all that spaghetti well.
i'm sure when your done it will be a museum quality piece like your other builds.
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: Electric Start Hidden Wire Build On a Cranbrook.

Thanks Curtis and Kartooo, its a lot of spaghetti for sure, and its a very heavy motor add the battery and its going to be a Sherman tank. I bet it will be close to 75 pounds or more. Ill weigh it when it's done for kicks. I will have to thin out
Some bikes, but its a hobby and you know how men justify their hobbies.
I won't be working on this till I get a wide crank in and my plastic sheet.here.
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:54 PM
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If you haven't already , check out cannonball 2's bullet train build. His addition to the cylinder head is reaaal nice!!
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: Electric Start Hidden Wire Build On a Cranbrook.

The combination regulator/rectifier sure looks like the are the same ones sold for old '60s-'70s CB Hondas to replace the rectifier and regulator.



http://www.common-motor.com/honda-cb...fier-regulator
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Old 03-18-2017, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: Electric Start Hidden Wire Build On a Cranbrook.

brings back memories...
that redish/orange finned thing, selinium rectifier.
over 40yrs ago the one on my CB160 failed.
my battery was so weak that if i blew my horn the engine would die.
i was lucky enough to stop in frt of a home with an owner of a battery charger.
he charged me up for and hr or so i could make it home.
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Old 03-18-2017, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Electric Start Hidden Wire Build On a Cranbrook.

I would love one of these, but I would definitely put a faux cylinder head on it. Something to make it look less like it has the zika virus.

The build looks good. I wouldn't be afraid of drilling a hole in the frame, then using a rubber grommet to pass wires inside the frame. Motorcycle builders do this. I'm not talking a huge hole, just big enough for the wires. Cut the connectors off, run wires, crimp connectors back on.

It'll be interesting to see what you end up with (as usual).

Good looking build!
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:58 PM
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If you haven't already , check out cannonball 2's bullet train build. His addition to the cylinder head is reaaal nice!!
Not sure how I missed that thread scratchbuilder, but I just read the entire thread. Cannonball can think circles around the common man for sure. His post always amaze me.
The cannonball head addition idea is cool and yep Agreen the Zika Virus comment made me spit my Pepsi all over, thanks man. Even though i have no idea what a that microbe looks like, but I agree this engine looks like its missing a head.
I just purchase some black plastic to cut my "fank" faux tank. I don't even know if i can do it so it looks and works good but I will try. I can always get more plastic if I mess up like I usually do on a first attempt.
Thanks Curtis and Kartooo for the encouragement.
Ill post some photos after I rough cut the "Fank" panels
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: Electric Start Hidden Wire Build On a Cranbrook.

Ok, I just finished the Plastic panels Right and Left. These will be the ones that hold all the electronics and connectors for the CDI - Rectifier - Starter Solenoid - plus the Bazillion wires. Cutting this stuff was challenging. I used a matt black poly-plastic. I cut with aviator shears and my hands are now sore. I will probably edge the panels with black door edge guard along the top for a finished look. So far so good. see picts. The last picture is my placement template.
That's it for now or Ill mess up. I have to noodle on how I will attach the panels Later today.
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