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Flyman

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Wish our actors today were like the ones I grew up knowing. The following men loved this country and were proud to serve.
Since most of today's people don't have any idea who these Men were and that's a pity as to what we have today.

George Gobel comedian, Army Air Corps, taught fighter pilots

Johnny Carson made a big deal about it once on the Tonight Show, to which George said "the **** didn't get past us.

Sterling Hayden, US Marines and OSS. Smuggled guns into Yugoslavia and parachuted into Croatia. Silver Star.

James Stewart, US Army Air Corps. Bomber pilot who rose to the rank of General.

Ernest Borgnine, US Navy. Gunners Mate 1c, destroyer USS Lamberton. 10 years active duty. Discharged 1941, re-enlisted after Pearl Harbor.

Ed McMahon, US Marines. Fighter Pilot. (Flew OE-1 Bird Dogs over Korea as well.)

Telly Savalas, US Army.

Walter Matthau, US Army Air Corps., B-24 Radioman/Gunner and cryptographer.

Steve Forrest, US Army. Wounded, Battle of the Bulge.

Jonathan Winters, USMC. Battleship USS Wisconsin and Carrier USS Bon Homme Richard. Anti-aircraft gunner, Battle of Okinawa.

Paul Newman, US Navy Rear seat gunner/radsioman, torpedo bombers of USS Bunker Hill.

Kirk Douglas, US Navy. Sub-chaser in the Pacific. Wounded in action and medically discharged.

Robert Mitchum, US Army.

Dale Robertson, US Army. Tank Commander in North Africa under Patton. Wounded twice. Battlefield Commission.

Henry Fonda, US Navy. Destroyer USS Satterlee.

John Carroll, US Army Air Corps. Pilot in North Africa. Broke his back in a crash.

Lee Marvin US Marines. Sniper. Wounded in action on Saipan. Buried in Arlington National Cemetery, Sec. 7A next to Greg Boyington and Joe Louis.

Art Carney, US Army. Wounded on Normandy beach, D-Day. Limped for the rest of his life.

Wayne Morris, US Navy fighter pilot, USS Essex. Downed seven Japanese fighters.

Rod Steiger, US Navy. Was aboard one of the ships that launched the Doolittle Raid.

Tony Curtis, US Navy. Sub tender USS Proteus. In Tokyo Bay for the surrender of Japan.

Larry Storch. US Navy. Sub tender USS Proteus with Tony Curtis.

Forrest Tucker, US Army. Enlisted as a private, rose to Lieutenant.

Robert Montgomery, US Navy.

George Kennedy, US Army. Enlisted after Pearl Harbor, stayed in sixteen years.

Mickey Rooney, US Army under Patton. Bronze Star.

Denver Pyle, US Navy. Wounded in the Battle of Guadalcanal. Medically discharged.

Burgess Meredith, US Army Air Corps.

DeForest Kelley, US Army Air Corps.

Robert Stack, US Navy. Gunnery Officer.

Neville Brand, US Army, Europe. Was awarded the Silver Star and Purple Heart.

Tyrone Power, US Marines. Transport pilot in the Pacific Theater.

Charlton Heston,US Army Air Corps. Radio operator and aerial gunner on a B-25, Aleutians.

Danny Aiello , US Army. Lied about his age to enlist at 16. Served three years.

James Arness, US Army. As an infantryman, he was severely wounded at Anzio, Italy.

Efram Zimbalist, Jr., US Army. Purple Heart for a severe wound received at Huertgen Forest.

Mickey Spillane, US Army Air Corps, Fighter Pilot and later Instructor Pilot.

Rod Serling. US Army. 11th Airborne Division in the Pacific. He jumped at Tagaytay in the Philippines and was later wounded in Manila.

Gene Autry, US Army Air Corps. Crewman on transports that ferried supplies over "The Hump" in the China-

Burma-India Theater.

Wiliam Holden, US Army Air Corps.

Alan Hale Jr, US Coast Guard.

Harry Dean Stanton, US Navy. Battle of Okinawa.

Russell Johnson, US Army Air Corps. B-24 crewman who was awarded Purple Heart when his aircraft was shot down by the Japanese in the Philippines.

William Conrad, US Army Air Corps. Fighter Pilot.

Jack Klugman, US Army.

Frank Sutton, US Army. Took part in 14 assault landings, including Leyte, Luzon, Bataan and Corregidor.

Jackie Coogan, US Army Air Corps. Volunteered for gliders and flew troops and materials into Burma behind enemy lines.

Tom Bosley, US Navy.

Claude Akins, US Army. Signal Corps., Burma and the Philippines.

Chuck Connors, US Army. Tank-warfare instructor.

Harry Carey Jr., US Navy.

Mel Brooks, US Army. Combat Engineer. Saw action in the Battle of the Bulge.

Robert Altman, US Army Air Corps. B-24 Co-Pilot.

Pat Hingle, US Navy. Destroyer USS Marshall

Fred Gwynne, US Navy. Radioman.

Karl Malden, US Army Air Corps. 8th Air Force, NCO.

Earl Holliman. US Navy. Lied about his age to enlist. Discharged after a year when the Navy found out.

Rock Hudson, US Navy. Aircraft mechanic, the Philippines.

Harvey Korman, US Navy.

Aldo Ray. US Navy. UDT frogman, Okinawa.

Don Knotts, US Army, Pacific Theater.

Don Rickles , US Navy aboard USS Cyrene.

Harry Dean Stanton, US Navy. Served aboard an LST in the Battle of Okinawa.

Robert Stack, US Navy. Gunnery Instructor.

Soupy Sales, US Navy. Served on USS Randall in the South Pacific.

Lee Van Cleef, US Navy. Served aboard a sub chaser then a mine sweeper.

Clifton James, US Army, South Pacific. Was awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and Purple Heart.

Ted Knight, US Army, Combat Engineers.

Jack Warden, US Navy, 1938-1942, then US Army, 1942-1945. 101st Airborne Division.

Don Adams. US Marines. Wounded on Guadalcanal, then served as a Drill Instructor.

James Gregory, US Navy and US Marines.

Brian Keith, US Marines. Radioman/Gunner in Dauntless dive-bombers.

Fess Parker, US Navy and US Marines. Booted from pilot training for being too tall, joined Marines as a radio operator.

Charles Durning. US Army. Landed at Normandy on D-Day. Shot multiple times. Awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. Survived Malmedy Massacre.

Raymond Burr, US Navy. Shot in the stomach on Okinawa and medically discharged.

Hugh O'Brian, US Marines.

Robert Ryan, US Marines.

Eddie Albert, US Coast Guard. Bronze Star with Combat V for saving several Marines under heavy fire as pilot of a landing craft during the invasion of Tarawa.

Cark Gable, US Army Air Corps. B-17 gunner over Europe.

Charles Bronson, US Army Air Corps. B-29 gunner, wounded in action.

Peter Graves, US Army Air Corps.

Buddy Hackett, US Army anti-aircraft gunner.

Victor Mature, US Coast Guard.

Jack Palance, US Army Air Corps. Severely injured bailing out of a burning B-24 bomber.

Robert Preston, US Army Air Corps. Intelligence Officer

Cesar Romero, US Coast Guard. Coast Guard. Participated in the invasions of Tinian and Saipan on the assault transport USS Cavalier.

Norman Fell, US Army Air Corps., Tail Gunner, Pacific Theater.

Jason Robards, US Navy. was aboard heavy cruiser USS Northampton when it was sunk off Guadalcanal. Also served on the USS Nashville during the invasion of the Philippines, surviving a kamikaze hit that caused 223 casualties.

Steve Reeves, US Army, Philippines.

Dennis Weaver, US Navy. Pilot.

Robert Taylor, US Navy. Instructor Pilot.

Randolph Scott. Tried to enlist in the Marines but was rejected due to injuries sustained in US Army, World War 1.

Ronald Reagan. US Army. Was a 2nd Lt. in the Cavalry Reserves before the war. His poor eyesight kept him from being sent overseas with his unit when war came so he transferred to the Army Air Corps Public Relations Unit where he served for the duration.

John Wayne. Declared "4F medically unfit" due to pre-existing injuries, he nonetheless attempted to volunteer three times (Army, Navy and Film Corps.) so he gets honorable mention.

And of course we have Audie Murphy, America's most-decorated soldier, who became a Hollywood star as a result of his US Army service that included his being awarded the Medal of Honor.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I submit to you that this is not the America today that it was seventy years ago. And I, for one, am saddened.

My generation grew up watching, being entertained by and laughing with so many of these fine people, never really knowing what they contributed to the war effort. Like millions of Americans during the WWII, there was a job that needed doing they didn't question, they went and did it, those that came home returned to their now new normal life and carried on, very few ever saying what they did or saw. They took it as their "responsibility", their "duty" to Country, to protect and preserve our freedoms and way of life, not just for themselves but for all future generations to come. Fly
 
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Thanks, Fly. That was a nice read. Puts some of those in a whole new light. Some I knew about, most I didn't.
Makes you stop and think, doesn't it?
I always like to see vets get their just rewards.

Tom
 

wheelbender6

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Thank you for posting that.
-I think the attitude of a lot of Americans towards Vietnam turned the tide against vets in Hollywood.
More recently, Americans have demonstrated that we can disagree with the war and still respect the sacrifice made by the soldiers. That didn't happen in the Vietnam era.
 

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That right there is a list.

Well done Fly.
Thanks!

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[can anyone tell me who on this list had "Primero" sham-duty for five years?]
 

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I hope we never get into a war so big again that so many survivors have that curriculum vitae.
 

Flyman

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I,m sure those survivors don't ether. War is not those folks wanted, but if
they had not we would all be speaking German today. God bless each of them.

Fly
 

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More recently, Americans have demonstrated that we can disagree with the war and still respect the sacrifice made by the soldiers..
some of us.

not me though. any war that I oppose in principle I cannot support those that allow for its creation - even if by only following orders.

That didn't happen in the Vietnam era.
only because we no longer have a draft. Had we not had it during Veitnam we would not have had the ugly riots that we did.

Had we had a draft for the Illegal Iraqnam, we would have had the same riots we had in the 1960's.

..............

but without the Draft since some other's kid was taking a bullet in a dumb war there was no "pound of flesh" for Joe Average American citizen to give much a damn one way or the other

instead they just like to feel good about themselves and wave flags over a war that has no direct impact in their lives.

product of a Professional Army. Creates armchair warriors and allows the President to start dumb and illegal wars without paying a political cost.
 

wheelbender6

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"only because we no longer have a draft"
I don't follow how the draft affects the treatment of our vets.
-Vietnam vets were drafted and much of the public treated them like crap when they returned to the states.
-Irag/Afghanistan vets voluteered and served because they wanted to, but their treatment by the public has been better than the Vietnam Vets. Success of the Irag/Afghanistan was mixed. It was not a great victory like Desert Storm.
-I think the Trade Center attacks made the Iraq/Afghanistan wars more acceptable to the public.
-Its possible that I misunderstood Gaffo's point about the draft. He may have meant that we no longer have anti-war riots because there is no longer a draft. There was a huge riot in New York City near the end of the american civil war over a government proposal that people could "buy" their way out of being drafted, which meant that the wealthy would not serve.
 

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Quote (Irag/Afghanistan vets voluteered and served because they wanted) not
necessary true. My son was a 1992 West Point graduate. There was no wars going
on. 9/11 had not happened yet.

He was one that was in to serve this great nation. But be leave me he did not chose
to go into battle because he wanted too. But if not for our young men & women that
serve we would not enjoy the freedom we have. Sorry until you have a son or daughter
that is serving in the military during war time you have no idea what this father went threw.

It's easy for someone to post on a web site anything they chose, & as stated above
it is your right, & I respect that. But my feeling are much deeper than most on this. Any
yes my son is the average American joe, & a flag waver as I,m.

Fly
 
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Trey

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Very well put my friend.You are a patriot, some just enjoy the fruits
of what others earned.
Fly
Thank you sir.




I have a co-worker who feels bad for not serving in the military. I told him to forget that, his opinion counts too. Not everybody is supposed to go. What kind of nation would we be if every person was in-service? It's not logical, and it's not representative of this Republic.
Besides, who's gonna drive my cars and make out with my girlfriends when I'm away?
 

Flyman

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That's funny & your spot on. It,s not about the one that did not serve. But
some think the ones that do are war mongers. Just not so. We must have
a armed service, a police dept, & so on. Someone has to do those jobs.

But the unfortunate thing are the ones doing the job also must live with
ridicule from some also. It is not a perfect world, for if it were we would not
have war, or crime as you very well know.

Fly