Hi from New Jersey! (Whizzer NER)

Helllo Everyone,
Greetings from the Garden State! I bought my Whizzer NER new in the summer of 2009. Not soon afterwards the reviews for this model started coming in. It seems it has a lot more factory built-in quirks to this model that the NE5 didn't have. Well, since it's been sitting in the garage since I bought her (I learned NJ requires a motorcycle license which I presently don't have) I think it's time to get it roadworthy. I'm looking forward to joining this forum, and I'm sure with owning a late model Whizzer that there will be plenty of questions! My goal is to make this machine as bullet proof as possible, CVT drive system not withstanding.
And with the price of gas now ugly and getting worse, having a motorbike on hand is kind of a hedge against the oil speculators and gougers/thieves.
Looking forward!
Mike Notigan

Hi Rohmell,
Yes, owning these late model Whizzers are interesting to say the least. From what I understand, the WC-1 whizzer came out with an engine where the steel valve seats came loose in the aluminum cylinder block. The NE5 redesigned cylinder apparently cured this problem, however the NE5 was discontinued and in it's place came the NER with another redesigned cylinder block with a rectangular steel "cassette" (for want of a better term) that was screwed into the aluminum cylinder block. This cassette contained the intake and exhaust valve seats. From what I've read, Quenton feels this design is doomed to failure. And from what I've seen of my cylinder head, the cooling fins are too small to do what they are designed to do.
My goal is to tap into all of the Whizzer knowledge out there so I can look into each element of this bikes design and see if it can be improved to the point where it is a reliable and bulletproof bike.
Thanks for the welcome and I look forward to participating in this forum!
Mike

Hi Marluzkat.
Understand that I have not registered/titled my bike in NJ yet. Bike has only 3 miles on it (going up and down the driveway, etc after adjustments, etc. Also, haven't had time to study for the motorcycle permit test, etc but what with our gas prices spiking crazy guess I'll have to get off my duff! This is the way I see it after going back to the NJ Motor Vehicle Commision website:
1. Mopeds must meet 4 of the following conditions to be considered a moped:
a. be classified as a pedal bicycle (yes, that qualifies our Whizzers)
b. have a motor with less then 50 cc's (disqualifies our Whizzers, being 138 cc)
c. cannot have more then 1.5 brake horsepower (disqualifies our Whizzers,
on my title from Whizzer USA the title states it has 1.95 hp. Yours should be the same as mine)
d. Maximum speed cannot be greater then 25 mph on a flat surface (well, it could or maybe couldn't disqualify us)
So, we will have to register our little Whizzer as a motorcycle, which means you will need to get a motorcycle permit/license/road test or an approved motorcycle safety course. Actually this is not bad as you may think. From what I've seen on a lot of posts are stories of a lot of people being stopped by police in other area of the country because they are carrying moped plates when in fact a lot should be running motorcycle plates with the required mc license. Yeah, it's a lot of extra money to NJ for a mc license but, hey, that little endorsement can then allow you to try one of them new nifty Royal Enfields that are becoming popular in the country.
Finally, on the MVC website is a list of approved motorcycle/scooter/motorbike manufacturers and our Whizzer manufacturer (at least for my NER) Chyong Horng Ent Co Ltd is listed as an approved manufacturer so there should be no problem going up to the counter and getting your bike titled. Not sure what Whizzer you have, but somewhere on the front steering tube will be the mfg id plate that will list the manufacturer of your bike. Again, understand that I have not gone to MVC as of yet, but the facts remain pretty simple to me: Whizzer at 138 cc and 1.95 hp is a motorcycle in the state of NJ. Hope this is of help for you. What part of NJ are you at? I'm in Florence Twp, 10 miles south of Trenton, close by the Delaware River side of the state. What kind of Whizzer do you have?
Take Care,
Mike

Hi Mariano,
After reading your reply I went back to the NJ MVS site for some answers. Not sure if I got everything needed.
Engine size is a personal preference. If it were me, I would have a 50 cc 4 stroke motor to keep it as a moped in order to avoid paying the premiums attached to a bike classed as a motorcycle.
Regarding not registering the bike and cutting off the motor when you spotted a police officer, it's just my opinion that it's not worth it. Once the officer spots you on a bike with a motor I would think the first thing he is immediately going to do is look for: moped license plate on rear of bike-helmet on top of head-goggles on face. And God forbid if you hit someone or someone hits you. The legal issues to follow will be more costly to you then the price of registering and insuring your bike. Remember, we live in NJ!!!!!!
I was having a problem trying to find clarification on the NJ MVS site regarding homebuilt bikes. It's my opinion Mariano that before you go any further with your project that you contact the NJ MVS and see what they have to say in regards to obtaining a title for your bike. Like I said, I'm just not seeing anything on their site that I can pass onto you. Let me know what you find out.
I like the cruiser bike idea. It's got that Whizzer vibe to it and should look really good once complete. I'd like to see it when she's done. Sorry I couldn't give you definitive answers...let me know what the MVS tells you.
Take care,
Mike
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