BlowByU Custom Built Wheels Best of the Best

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Terry Blow

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Hi All
Here is my line of wheels they are made of the best parts I could find If you want to be safe riding you motorized bike you need these wheels.
Not only will you be safe your going to look good to with these matching front and rear wheels.
Your choice of front 90mm drum or mechanical or hydraulic disk brake.
All bearing are sealed motorcycle style bearings for the 12 gage black spokes can be had for an exrta charge for ultimate in safety.
Here is the link to my web-page with my custom wheels:
http://blowbyumotorizedbicycles.ca/169001.html
Cheers from BlowByU
Terry
 
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bairdco

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best of the best? the ultimate in safety? you need these to be safe?

those are some pretty big claims for a 13g, 3 cross, pin-jointed aluminum rimmed wheel with a chinese rear hub.

while probably better than a box store wheel, or ready-made bike store wheel, it's a far cry from "the ultimate in safety."

it's not the wheel i'm offended by, it's the claims you make about it. you seem like an exciteable guy, but that doesn't excuse exaggerated claims.

11 and 12g spokes are readily available, 4 cross spoke patterns are only slightly harder than 3, and will add a lot more strength and longevity to a wheel.

i've been building custom wheels for 25 years or so, and i'm sorry, but i just had to interject some reality into your advertising.

but i do like the front hub:)
 

Terry Blow

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best of the best? the ultimate in safety? you need these to be safe?

those are some pretty big claims for a 13g, 3 cross, pin-jointed aluminum rimmed wheel with a chinese rear hub.

while probably better than a box store wheel, or ready-made bike store wheel, it's a far cry from "the ultimate in safety."

it's not the wheel i'm offended by, it's the claims you make about it. you seem like an exciteable guy, but that doesn't excuse exaggerated claims.

11 and 12g spokes are readily available, 4 cross spoke patterns are only slightly harder than 3, and will add a lot more strength and longevity to a wheel.

i've been building custom wheels for 25 years or so, and i'm sorry, but i just had to interject some reality into your advertising.

but i do like the front hub:)
Well I have news for you theses wheel are built by Newton Rocky cycles they are down hill racing specialist. Who are you just some guy if you don't like these wheels don't buy them you likely even think it is perfectly fine to ride around at 40 MPH with standard bicycle bearings and V brakes too
 

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Well I have news for you theses wheel are built by Newton Rocky cycles they are down hill racing specialist. Who are you just some guy if you don't like these wheels don't buy them you likely even think it is perfectly fine to ride around at 40 MPH with standard bicycle bearings and V brakes too
he's right though, 11 or 12g spokes would be safer then 13g, and there is a stronger pattern for spokes, there are obviously safer ways that can be done. i have no doubts they will work well, but there is obviously a bit of room for improvement.

he had a problem with your advertising and you decide to make it personal, don't know why you can't just take it as constructive criticism and move on.
 
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Terry Blow

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he's right though, 11 or 12g spokes would be safer then 13g, and there is a stronger pattern for spokes, there are obviously safer ways that can be done. i have no doubts they will work well, but there is obviously a bit of room for improvement.

he had a problem with your advertising and you decide to make it personal, don't know why you can't just take it as constructive criticism and move on.
Constructive criticism would be him PMing me Not trashing me in my sales thread yes you guys are right 12 gage is better I have been searching for months to find 12 gage and no luck. My wheel builder builds for as I said down hill racing and if he tells me that these wheels can take that kind of punishment that is all I need to know why because he is the expert with all the right backing. So who made this person really!
 

Terry Blow

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best of the best? the ultimate in safety? you need these to be safe?

those are some pretty big claims for a 13g, 3 cross, pin-jointed aluminum rimmed wheel with a chinese rear hub.

while probably better than a box store wheel, or ready-made bike store wheel, it's a far cry from "the ultimate in safety."

it's not the wheel i'm offended by, it's the claims you make about it. you seem like an exciteable guy, but that doesn't excuse exaggerated claims.

11 and 12g spokes are readily available, 4 cross spoke patterns are only slightly harder than 3, and will add a lot more strength and longevity to a wheel.

i've been building custom wheels for 25 years or so, and i'm sorry, but i just had to interject some reality into your advertising.

but i do like the front hub:)
bairdco
I owe you an apology I followed one of the threads you posted in and found a source for 12 gage black spokes. So I now offer them as an option for an extra charge. I also found the reason my wheel builder uses 3 cross it is because it makes the wheels lighter.
All of my wheels are now 4 cross at a cost of extra weight but stronger.
I owe you one AND now I can say they are the best with out insulting you
Thank you and Cheers from BlowByU
Terry
 

Terry Blow

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brairdco
As a way for me to barry the hatchet I have posted this at the top of my custom wheels page: Special Thanks to bairdco Forum member for some great info on wheel building.
Cheers
Terry
 

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them old schwinn rims will put up with any punishment you can give them. my motor will break first. those bearings will take 40 all day and the trails just for fun. Don't need 200 dollars rims. got less in my whole bike. yours look pretty cool though
 

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them old schwinn rims will put up with any punishment you can give them. my motor will break first. those bearings will take 40 all day and the trails just for fun. Don't need 200 dollars rims. got less in my whole bike. yours look pretty cool though
Guy's that bang their bikes around really hard doing all the ramping and jumping use aluminum rims. They have a rare flex to them and stay true . Steel rims would just bend under these circumstances. A big plus as well they cut down in weight. Here is one of my favorite videos these are not steel rims......... YouTube - Inspired Bicycles - Danny MacAskill April 2009
 

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wow, i was ready to get all defensive, and then you had to ruin it by being nice to me...:)

the point of my post wasn't to specifically bash you in the open forum, i just wanted to keep you honest.

it irks me when anyone makes exagerrated claims about anything. if you claim something's the best, it better be the best.

i also like to walk into places like bars and restaurants that claim "world famous" and complain that i've never heard of them.;)

as far as my wheel building experience, i've been building my own wheels since i was 11 years old. i built all my BMX wheels, and used to do a 5 cross race-lace pattern (ask your builder about that) that was virtually indestructable.

i use sturmey archer FXDD hubs on my new builds, and have Worksman drums and even an old Atom drum on my bikes. Atom's were used on mopeds, and Worksman's i believe are made by Grimeca, which make moped and motorcycle hubs.

for rears i always run high quality coaster brakes, and on my personal bikes i rebuild them with loose ball bearings instead of the caged, and i grease them quite often, and fine-tune them so they work perfectly.

i re-drill my hubs to accept 12 or 11g spokes, which i get from worksman or husky, as well as a large stock of NOS schwinn approved spokes i scored awhile ago.

i mostly use worksman wheels as well, although i wish i could still get the old sun metal products wheels, as they were virtually indestructable.

there is a big difference between down hill bicycle riding and the side and torque loads that a motorbike puts out. both are hard on the wheels (as well as the rest of the bike,) and i know many hardcore mountain bikers that choose a lightweight, semi-strong wheel for it's performance abilities, yet sacrifice longevity, and buy new wheels quite often.

a motorized bicycle doesn't have to be as concerned with flexibility or lightness, as most of the time it goes in a straight line, like a motorcycle. most spoked motorcycle wheels are steel clinchers, heavy duty spokes, and sealed bearing hubs.

the wheels you offer are a definite upgrade from most stock wheels, especially those found on department store bikes, and my main gripe was with the way you chose to advertise it. to me, it just seemed misleading.

i didn't mean to bash you or insult you, but in a public forum like this, we're all allowed to voice our opinions, and share our knowledge and experience, even if it's not what someone else wants to hear.

i wish you the best of luck with your business, terry, seriously. i know it's a tough market to crack...

(edit) one thing that's been buggin' me. your wheel builder says a 3 cross is lighter than a 4 cross. it's the same amount of spokes, same hubs, same rims. most of the time you can use the same size spokes, and the difference in case you can't is miniscule. like a 10 5/8" spoke to a 10 7/8". the weight savings would be almost nothing.
 
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Terry Blow

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Thank you for that bairdco
You are right there are a few things about 3 cross I have been told one was the will be heavier and the other is that 3 across is more rigid than 4 cross. I was also told that 4 cross will flex more. Never the less I am going with your suggestion and all my wheels will be 4 cross. The rims I am using are the best rims I could find in a wide double wall and reviews are outstanding. And the hubs I am using are sturmey Archer front 90mm drum brake and the other option is a front disk brake hub called a Halo Spin Doctor also with sealed bearings. For the rear I know you don't like the hubs but I think they are the best product of this type Grubee HD axle kit I think they are the best and here is why I think they are sealed bearings and a thread on hub adapter for the sprocket the band brake dose not give more than 30% braking power but coupled with the front you get good braking power. Now there is better hubs but they are motorcycle hubs and if I was to use them I would never sell them as the price be would WOW. So that is why my claim is the best of the best Aluminum high quality rims
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quality stainless spokes and nipples and my claim that the hubs I am using are the best I have not found or heard of anything better. Lastly the rims have eyelets and will not accept anything bigger than 13 gage. Now I said best of the best because there's nothing better on the market than the wheels I have purposely built for motorized bicycles. I will never accept that the wheels are better unless you can show me that they have sealed bearings and my reason is motorcycle have them for a reason that is good enough for me. And I can give you all the reasons but this post is getting too long. The next is aluminum rims eyelets with not steel, steel is just way to old and plus color matched. Show me these wheel and I will remove my claim as best of the best.
Thank you for your insight bairdco you helped me learn some good things
Cheers
Terry
 

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wow, i was ready to get all defensive, and then you had to ruin it by being nice to me...:)

the point of my post wasn't to specifically bash you in the open forum, i just wanted to keep you honest.

it irks me when anyone makes exagerrated claims about anything.

as far as my wheel building experience, i've been building my own wheels since i was 11 years old. i built all my BMX wheels, and used to do a 5 cross race-lace pattern (ask your builder about that) that was virtually indestructable.
You mean after all this time ya never noticed the shear elegance of a nice down hill grade double wall aluminum alloy rim? They shave weight on a bike nice too.

for rears i always run high quality coaster brakes, and on my personal bikes i rebuild them with loose ball bearings instead of the caged, and i grease them quite often, and fine-tune them so they work perfectly.
Pot calling the kettle black?...
No such thing unless you weigh 130 pounds and you run slow china's. Like someone I know;):p Not a exception on a Morini. IMHO I my self pretty much just scoff aT all coaster brakes.. They don't belong on anything I own. Having to take them apart constantly to re-grease them to me is heinously redundant. The horror of it all.

Lastly if I want to shift on my seat to pick my put or something.. I can do it with style and ease not having the brakes come on. Down hill riders have no use for such a tragedy.

Nice down hill hubs with sealed cartridge unit bearings state of the art disk brakes can ya dig..
i mostly use worksman wheels as well, although i wish i could still get the old sun metal products wheels, as they were virtually indestructable.

there is a big difference between down hill bicycle riding and the side and torque loads that a motorbike puts out. both are hard on the wheels (as well as the rest of the bike,) and i know many hardcore mountain bikers that choose a lightweight, semi-strong wheel for it's performance abilities, yet sacrifice longevity, and buy new wheels quite often.
Your steel wheels would not last one run. I have mountains to play in here. Lets play this trivia? When mine flex a little they spring back to shape when yours flex there bent up. If steel rims was the bomb then world class championship riders would be using them. One of my favorite videos YouTube - Longest Bicycle Downhill If I did runs like this quite often mebbe I would be sacrificing longevity. At which point my self..laff
a motorized bicycle doesn't have to be as concerned with flexibility or lightness, as most of the time it goes in a straight line, like a motorcycle. most spoked motorcycle wheels are steel clinchers, heavy duty spokes, and sealed bearings
I know of lots of true motorcycles that have nice alloy ''aluminum'' wheels. They even do well in a straight line too.



Here is more ... Aluminum rims ''the right ones'' are stronger than steel and run circles around tricks and all !! IMO..

YouTube - Danny MacAskill - "Way Back Home"

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There are no steel rims in this guy's forte..
Might even note how the wheels are laced in the videos......
As for me I traveled in a straight line on my nice alloy rims. For a good thirty years never had a problem.
Just saying... brodder:D
 
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bairdco

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geez, here we go again...

elegant downhill wheels. great. yay, there's nothing really wrong with them. all you downhill motorized bikers can use them all you want. they'll also work fine on the street in a straight line. knock yourself out.

i prefer coaster brakes. i like 'em. always have. yeah, i gotta re-grease them, but that's no big deal, not to me. i like getting my hands dirty and knowing how every part of my bike works, and is holding up.

i don't normally pick my butt doing 50+ on my "slow china," but if i had to, i certainly could without applying the brakes. if you watch my death race video, you can see i don't really have a problem riding a bike with a coaster.

i've seen your videos, too, goatherder. that morini doing 20-30mph through the parking lot is impressive. it's too bad you're not in as good as shape as me, 'cause if you were 135lbs, that bike would really come alive. obviously, the only reason my bikes are so fast, is because i'm so light. it doesn't have anything to do with the time i've put into the engine and the bike itself, it just relates to how many big macs i eat. from now on, if anyone asks my advice about how to make a fast bike, i'll start by telling them to crash diet, maybe take some laxatives, get some liposuction, embrace bulimia, and to get on jenny craig. or do a lot of coke. whatever it takes to slim down.

since we're talking motorized bikes here, i'm not too worried how well my steel wheels will hold up on a downhill mountain bike run. although i know there's a coaster brake challenge held every year, and it's all about people riding "clunkers" down mountains. but, as i said, i'm not a downhill mountain biker, so i don't care.

as for Danny MacAskill, that guy's amazing. i don't know what kind of authority he is on motorized bike wheels, though. i can't really tell how his wheels are laced, but they seem to be round, spoked, and have tires on them. that's pretty important. if i ever build a motorized bike designed for backflipping, jumping phone boxes, and riding on top of decaying scottish structures, i'll definitely study his set-up a little better.

also, i never once, in my reply to terry, mentioned that a steel wheel was better than aluminum, or that a coaster brake was better than any other hub, or that anything i've built, or that i ride, is "the best" and should be taken as gospel. i was replying with what i use and what i know, and explaining my background and my set-up.
 

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geez, here we go again...

elegant downhill wheels. great. yay, there's nothing really wrong with them. all you downhill motorized bikers can use them all you want. they'll also work fine on the street in a straight line. knock yourself out.

i prefer coaster brakes. i like 'em. always have. yeah, i gotta re-grease them, but that's no big deal, not to me. i like getting my hands dirty and knowing how every part of my bike works, and is holding up.

i don't normally pick my butt doing 50+ on my "slow china," but if i had to, i certainly could without applying the brakes. if you watch my death race video, you can see i don't really have a problem riding a bike with a coaster.

i've seen your videos, too, goatherder. that morini doing 20-30mph through the parking lot is impressive. it's too bad you're not in as good as shape as me, 'cause if you were 135lbs, that bike would really come alive. obviously, the only reason my bikes are so fast, is because i'm so light. it doesn't have anything to do with the time i've put into the engine and the bike itself, it just relates to how many big macs i eat. from now on, if anyone asks my advice about how to make a fast bike, i'll start by telling them to crash diet, maybe take some laxatives, get some liposuction, embrace bulimia, and to get on jenny craig. or do a lot of coke. whatever it takes to slim down.

since we're talking motorized bikes here, i'm not too worried how well my steel wheels will hold up on a downhill mountain bike run. although i know there's a coaster brake challenge held every year, and it's all about people riding "clunkers" down mountains. but, as i said, i'm not a downhill mountain biker, so i don't care.

as for Danny MacAskill, that guy's amazing. i don't know what kind of authority he is on motorized bike wheels, though. i can't really tell how his wheels are laced, but they seem to be round, spoked, and have tires on them. that's pretty important. if i ever build a motorized bike designed for backflipping, jumping phone boxes, and riding on top of decaying scottish structures, i'll definitely study his set-up a little better.

also, i never once, in my reply to terry, mentioned that a steel wheel was better than aluminum, or that a coaster brake was better than any other hub, or that anything i've built, or that i ride, is "the best" and should be taken as gospel. i was replying with what i use and what i know, and explaining my background and my set-up.
I aint fat in any way and I am not a starved out Ethiopian looking junky. I could juggle and throw three of you. So there. Put a back pack on with matched weight if it don't cripple you and I will race you for eight hours at a time peddling or motored and that's a fact. I ride with a back pack on with even more weight added . Think body builder I is in shape.

So when I test wheels or claim a particular incite its because mines is more toughly tested than yours that was my point. Smarty pants.:)

That bike did better than 30 buddy it was a cruiser bike. The video was never meant to look like a crazed lunatic without any sence. It was also meant to show what I had been doing with the clutch. Try again I don't make broken promises.

You lost to a china in the death race ha ha.