Oil on front of motor

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Groove

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This is going to be hard to describe but I'm going to try anyway. What LOOKS like a gap between the head gasket and the seating surface may not actually be. I thought I had the same issue so I took the acorns off, lifted the top of the heat sink off the motor so I could examine how it seats against the gasket. Turns out there is a circular raised area that meets up with the metal head gasket in such a way that it is will seal even though visually it looks like there is a slight gap between gasket and engine head, it is in fact sealed. Okay am I crazy? Can you check haoleboy and see if yours is like that?

I swapped out the acorns for some shouldered hex nuts but now I understand why the head doesn't *appear* to seat against the gasket once properly torqued to ~130 in/lbs.
 
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haoleboy

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Groove; Thanks for your explanation, and everyone else, I don't know what "acorns" are, but I looked again at the motor, and there is not oil leaking at all. Everything is tight. At this point, I 'm not going to start taking things apart, especially the head just to seat how it is seated. I'll wait till something gets warped or break.......I have taken apart VW's before, and I feel quite confident that I can overhaul this little guy. Groove, it looks like the description you gave is similar to what I have........Thanks.....
 

Groove

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Tom, I've gone back to re-read this thread and my above post.... Is that the area you were telling us to lap with sand paper? It's a perfect circle almost same diameter as gasket opening and seems to be embossedf maybe 1/32 inch on the underside of the head where it is supposed to meet the gasket..
 
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Groove

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Okay, sounds like you're up and running and I don't blame you for not wanting to try to fix what's not broken. Mine is the same exact engine probably. You'll probably be all good now, but I still want to hear what 2door or the other experts recommend we do...
 

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You can actually sand that raised ring off. It is there to provide a good gasket sealing area but if it is removed you'll still have a good area for the gasket to seal. Removing it will also raise your compression, but not much. The trick is, and it's critical, is to not sand an angle in the head. That surface must remain absolutely flat. This is why I recommended rotating the head in your hand as you sand to assure an even surface. By rotating, I mean reposition the cylinder head about 90 degrees every few circular motions on the sandpaper. As I said above, like putting wax on a car. Remember Karate Kid? Wax on, wax off?

Tom
 

Groove

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Okay good. Thanks for the explanation and perhaps I will develop some karate skills in the process. These bikes are so fun. Thanks for the great advice again.

Groove.
 

Groove

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Haoleboy - sorry the acorns are just those chrome hex nuts with the domed top. Some people have had issues with those bottoming out on the top of the studs. And yeah, we'll be able to overhaul these little guys just fine when they need it (hopefully LOL). It's fun for me to learn mechanical skills. You worked on vw's so you have some know how. My only exposure had been assembling gas radio control cars so this is all new to me.
 

haoleboy

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Groove; Thanks for the info on the acorns...... today is going to be fun. I volunteer at a local hospital, and it is going to rain in Redding....forecast is many inches for the next five days.......yippee! it's fun to ride in the rain!!!!!