Not using synthetic oil for break in is an old wives tale.Don't use synthetic oil for the break in! (it works too well), & the engine won't break in as well as it should.
Old wives tales usually have a reason for getting started. Call me old fashioned but I'll never understand how you're getting enough lube on ALL the bearings that need it with less than half the oil in the fuel that you would use with a regular mix. More oil = more lubrication on the bearings. And It's REAL oil. Not something synthesized from soybeans or corn or WHATEVER.Not using synthetic oil for break in is an old wives tale.
read http://ffv8.com/2-stroke-oils.htmlOk I'm confused and don't know what to do... Do I use the Lucas semi for break in or not, and does any one else agree with mapbike? ... Also this is the first time I've heard of gettin rid of the acorn nuts..does anyone else agree with that...
because THEY ARE cheaply made a break in period is recommended. All those brands you mentioned are very high quality compared to a dirty little China girl."Why "break -in" at all?
Good question. Stihl, Husqvarna, Poulan, Ryobi & Homelite make millions of units each year. None of them come with highly detailed instructions to break them in gently, or use more oil. A new chainsaw comes out of the box, and goes right to work at 10,000 RPM & full load on the cutting chain. A 2 stroke race bike rolls off the trailer with a fresh top end - and goes WOT across the desert through the gears"
I've always said the same thing, I dont hate on people for running an engine how they feel comfortable, but just good common sense says all the TLC on the CG engines isnt warranted honestly, either you get a good one or you dont, but then again that has just been my personal experience and may not be the same for everyone.
The reason ya wanna get rid of those nuts is because they don't always allow the head to be tightened properly. the studs can hit the top inside of the nut and wont tighten any more and that can make for a head that wont torque down. Then It'll blow a head gasket. I was Re-reading and noticed no one answered that question for ya. I've sometimes ground the top off of the acorn nuts, I've also had the tops POP OFF when torqueing them down. the best way is to just buy good nuts.Ok I'm confused and don't know what to do... Do I use the Lucas semi for break in or not, and does any one else agree with mapbike? ... Also this is the first time I've heard of gettin rid of the acorn nuts..does anyone else agree with that...
Oh yeah big difference in quality between a china girl and a top notch engine for sure, I still think it comes down to whether someone gets a good china girl to start with or not, if crank and bearings arw good and the bore is honed properly and straight, Im gonna venture to say you can run it full out from day one on whatever quality oil you want and it will be fine and continue to be a good engine.because THEY ARE cheaply made a break in period is recommended. All those brands you mentioned are very high quality compared to a dirty little China girl.
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Oh yeah big difference in quality between a china girl and a top notch engine for sure, I still think it comes down to whether someone gets a good china girl to start with or not, if crank and bearings arw good and the bore is honed properly and straight, Im gonna venture to say you can run it full out from day one on whatever quality oil you want and it will be fine and continue to be a good engine.
If the crank is very untrue, bearing are rough and marginal quality from day one, it peobably isnt gonna make much difference how you run the engine or what oil/fuel mix is used in it because its gonna give up the ghost on you in a short amount of time.
The main thing that has to be done no matter what mix ratio is used is that the carb must be tuned right for the mix, if not it doesnt matter if there is 10-12oz of oil in a gallon of gas, the engine can still be fried and overheated from a lean run condition since oil lu ricates but fuel keeps it cool, to much air and not enough gas and the engine is gonna cook no matter how much oil is in the mix and that is the main point I try to stress to noobs who dont u derstand 2 smokers.
People like myself and you Red understand these things and we can run all sorts of different oils and mixes without having trouble ecause we do it right, but some people dont have this knowledge and so I just try to make it clear that jetting the carb properly is key to reliability if all else is right.
And as I said earlier I have nothing against someone doing whatever kind of break in period or technique they ceel comfortable with, it wont hurt a thing to mix a rich oil mix and run it below full bore for a while as long as the carb is tuned for that mix.
No disagreement here from me at all, just my person $0.02 NOT contradicting anyone or their methods, if it works I say do it, thats why I do mine the way I do, it has always worked for me.