Hoglet V-twin engine

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Ludwig II

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Do you know there are twin port heads available for some of the Chinese CG copies? http://farm8.static.flickr.com/7169/6549371691_1887852e80.jpg Probably makes the engine slower, rather than faster, but are you bothered?

Tuning the engines isn't easy, I don't know of anyone who makes go faster bits for them. Do NOT open out the inlet tract, it is already sized to flow fuel and air for a 200 (same valve sizes as the old XR200).

Will yours have a balancer shaft as well? The crankcases are two very different shapes at the front.
 

Ludwig II

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Oh, one of THEM! All the way up to 4 valve and fancy cams, and all derived from a Honda 50 engine. Oil has a very short life in them, it's only fair to warn you. An oil cooler is a really good idea, not just a poser's accessory, as well as breathers on the crankcase and cylinder head. Blow by down the side of the piston can really pressurise the cases.
 

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You ever see those old war films where an enemy battleship's been sighted, and they have to make lots of smoke to hide behind? It can get really bad with a pitbike.
 

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not from what i have seen with these engines they are honda clones and great quality compared to the stuff we put up with i love my 2 smoker but i would love it more if i could have more than 60% confidence in it
 

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They're ok in standard tune, but if you work on them and then use them hard they do get sweaty. I do recommend frequent oil changes though.
 

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after the breaking in its getting full synthetic and im going to be crazy about the oil and everything on this bike its what i have wanted from the start but didnt know it or what i was looking for out of it
 

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Remember to clean the sludge out of the centrifugal filter every oil change, it can get so compacted it actually looks like metal, but will dig out with a sharp object (you are allowed sharp objects, I hope, I'm not?).
 

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The Howell on eBay ended at $836 plus shipping. Not too bad when considering the cost of having the parts machined for you. If you are a craftsman and expert machinist then the cost is time and materials so that would be a questionable value at that price. I'm a CAD guy. I can model this stuff but I can't make it. If it can be fabricated with flat stock and a Dremel tool I'm in! This opportunity was ill timed for me so it's back to my PC and the packet of prints from Howell that I am reworking. Maybe next year. Maybe the year after that. Unless of coarse there were a machist on the forum and few other interested members that could pool resources and get the cost down. Perhaps a small run of investment cast cases for example if we had a large enough build? I'm going to keep working on the files to design what I want. If we can coordinate something that'd be dandy.
 
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Investment cast cases? Definitely not the cheap way into that. I have done a fair amount of foundry and machine work. The cheap way into it is to build a pattern from wood, plastic, metal, or a combination. Then take it to a foundry to have them rammed up in sand. Investment makes some beautiful pieces but they are pricey if ya need more than one.

Mike

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Harold_B

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All I can say is wow! Serious fab skills, which I totally do not have. I am a CAD guy and I can design and to a limited extent I can build brackets and the like with flat stock, a Dremel tool and a drill press. Investment castings aren't all that expensive compared to having parts machined from solid. If I wanted to tool it for small scale production then that could be pretty costly. I'm still looking at options and may or may not go down the v-twin path but it will need to look good and be robust. Machined or machined casting, either way it's not going to happen in the next couple of weeks anyway. I have plenty of time to figure this out.

There are some amazingly creative and bright people around. Thanks for the link.
 

kingdreday

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I would really like to work with you on the hog let project I'm going to talk with a couple of builders and see what they can do if your interested.
 

fasteddy

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Kingdreday,

Welcome to the forum.

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Steve.