Motor-Assisted Bike Riders of Vermont

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woodyvt

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Sep 12, 2008
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We have a problem. A serious problem.
There is a case before the district court in Rutland County that will effect all motorized bike riders throughout the state. The State prosecution is attempting to use the District Court and a judge to define motor-assisted bicycles as "motor vehicles". This is wrong. It is up to our State Legislature to enact laws through a process that requires public meetings, public review and input. Part of that process includes creating definitions of things that a law or statute will apply to. The State Legislature has not done this with motor-assisted bicycles so the prosecution is attempting to unlawfully bypass that legislative process and use the court to jam motor-assisted bicycles under the general definition of "motor vehicle" so that they can control them.

If they are allowed to get away with this, the state will be able to use this one case to build a foundation with which they can and will enforce prosecution of people for no good reason. This is a landmark case for all of us and will effect all of us throughout the state forever or unless we can get the legislature to enact a change in the motor vehicle code that includes our bikes.

I have a good dedicated attorney who believes that what they are doing is wrong and will fight this to the bitter end. He understands how important this case is to us.

We need your help. We need information. If we can show the court how many people this will have an effect on it will make a huge difference. It will prove our point that the effects will amount to the state prosecutor and the court being used to legislate from the bench.

If you ride a motor-assisted bicycle, if you build motor-assisted bikes, if you are in business related to motor-assisted bikes, please help us help you.

We need a letter from you. What we need to know: where you live, how long you have had your motor-assisted bike and how long you have been riding it, what you use it for, a meaningful statement about why you need it to get around and how important it is in your daily life and finally, whether or not you have a disability, whether or not you have a valid drivers license, if and when you have been seen by your local police, if you have been stopped, questioned or any interaction at all or been ticketed or received any criminal citations. Please include a phone number. I will print the letters I receive and give them to my attorney who will present them in court.

If you want to help in any way or get involved in the outcome of this case, please let us know.

[email protected]
 

ferball

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Apr 8, 2010
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I live across the border in NH, 5 minutes from VT. I had to chuckle a little bit, as "Legislating from the Bench" is a nation wide problem that we all seem to ignore, but like all politics we don't care until it effects us...But I that is a discussion for another forum.

Vermont is a funny state, I am willing to bet that the evil Gas Powered Motor Bikes will be shot down and legislated into a black hole, and the "Eco-friendly" e-bikes will get a tax credit...
 

joebowe

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Aug 15, 2010
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vermont
Your bike is defined already by the state as a moped and subject to all motor vehicle laws including insurance and inspection. No helmet required. Just because the law is not always enforced doesn't mean it's not there.
 

BarelyAWake

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Jus' as a quick FYI joe - woodyvt made this thread about two years ago then disappeared after only three posts, so I don't think he'll be replying...


Still, it's a valid concern and I hate how law makers seek any gray area to exploit - I suspect such is far more about making themselves appear needful then any real concern for "public safety". As time rolls on and laws are refined to the tiniest detail, it must be quite a challenge to find a new area to legislate - it's really a stretch to think power assisted bicycles need any regulation at all...

While the whole country is suffering from this micro-mismanagement, I gotta say Vermont really takes the cake. I loved that state dearly and lived there for years... but eventually fled in terror as the lawmongers are out of control, once the people finally outnumbered the cows - it all went crazy. I've often said that upstate New York is great - so much like what Vermont used to be like lol

I hope ya don't take this personal, I still do like VT and the people that live there... but it's become the most conservative "liberal" state I've ever seen ;)


*sigh* Lake Champlain, I do miss you :(
 

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Dave31

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Wow, those are some beautiful photos BarelyAWake. Don't get to see scenery like that in the old dusty West, makes me want to visit.
 

BarelyAWake

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First shot is of the Champlain Bridge - of which was demolished in '09, second is Arnold Bay - where goold ol' Benny hid from the Brits, Third is Otter Creek - Where there's a fine microbrewery of the same name, last is the Vermont Maritime Museum - where I came under heavy cannon fire during an reenactment and was boarded... they drank alla my provisions *shakes fist*

...yet I gotta say the dusty west has it's own charms, if a slightly more harsh beauty ;)
 

akaBUD

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Aug 27, 2010
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Vermont
We have a problem. A serious problem.
There is a case before the district court in Rutland County that will effect all motorized bike riders throughout the state. The State prosecution is attempting to use the District Court and a judge to define motor-assisted bicycles as "motor vehicles". This is wrong. It is up to our State Legislature to enact laws through a process that requires public meetings, public review and input. Part of that process includes creating definitions of things that a law or statute will apply to. The State Legislature has not done this with motor-assisted bicycles so the prosecution is attempting to unlawfully bypass that legislative process and use the court to jam motor-assisted bicycles under the general definition of "motor vehicle" so that they can control them.

If they are allowed to get away with this, the state will be able to use this one case to build a foundation with which they can and will enforce prosecution of people for no good reason. This is a landmark case for all of us and will effect all of us throughout the state forever or unless we can get the legislature to enact a change in the motor vehicle code that includes our bikes.

I have a good dedicated attorney who believes that what they are doing is wrong and will fight this to the bitter end. He understands how important this case is to us.

We need your help. We need information. If we can show the court how many people this will have an effect on it will make a huge difference. It will prove our point that the effects will amount to the state prosecutor and the court being used to legislate from the bench.

If you ride a motor-assisted bicycle, if you build motor-assisted bikes, if you are in business related to motor-assisted bikes, please help us help you.

We need a letter from you. What we need to know: where you live, how long you have had your motor-assisted bike and how long you have been riding it, what you use it for, a meaningful statement about why you need it to get around and how important it is in your daily life and finally, whether or not you have a disability, whether or not you have a valid drivers license, if and when you have been seen by your local police, if you have been stopped, questioned or any interaction at all or been ticketed or received any criminal citations. Please include a phone number. I will print the letters I receive and give them to my attorney who will present them in court.

If you want to help in any way or get involved in the outcome of this case, please let us know.

[email protected]
Hope this helps...
http://www.leg.state.vt.us/DOCS/2010/ACTS/ACT152.PDF