$10 homemade headlight runs on white wire

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paul

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curious. when i put a 6volt light on the white wire the bike ran great but i had to make sure the light was off for the motor to start. you having the same issue?
 

Dontwannawalk

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how many and what size batteries were the lights designed to run on originally, and how long have you been running these lights with no fuses?

There were 4 AA batteries (6 volts) per light. & I've had one of them going for about two years & the other for a year. I found that The screws work loose on the mounts & the original one that I modified for the taillight bounced across the pavement & broke the battery case. That's when I started experimenting with the white wire. I purchased a new one for the headlight and took the mounting pieces apart and then re-assembled it with JB Weld in all of the little nooks & crannies that the tiny little screws held together. I used the original clamp to attach it to the handlebars. I made a Y in the wire connection and ran one to the headlight and the other to the taillight. It works like a charm. The lights cost about $13.00 each shipped out of China. I just checked & it was 76 Leds & you'd have to adapt the mounts for what's available now but, this is the light. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...t=0&_odkw=76+LED+Bicycle+head+light&_osacat=0

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bigbutterbean

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curious. when i put a 6volt light on the white wire the bike ran great but i had to make sure the light was off for the motor to start. you having the same issue?

Yeah, I checked that out. I figured if the engine wouldnt start with the light on, then it was probably drawing a bit too much power. engine starts the same with the light on or off. must be a good light to use. now I just need to get a fuse on it.
 

maurtis

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Here is a picture of mine, freshly installed. I will take more pictures in better lighting after I get the wiring done. I used the same flashlight that BBB used, cut it down to fit in a toothbrush tumbler I got from Target. I am in the process of looking for a vintage looking wood or leather box to sit on my rear rack for tools, and the battery will live in there. For now, I will just have the stock battery pack under my seat and running from a switch I epoxied next to my stock kill switch.



I am thinking of recessing the light more into the housing, maybe 1/2" or so...
 

xenodius

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I'm going to try to throw something similar together with an old headlight mount and some parts from dealextreme;

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/mr16-1...urrent-regulated-led-driver-8-40v-input-13553

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/0-2w-1...ht-5050-smd-led-emitters-50-piece-pack-133089

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/cree-p4-led-emitter-wd-1302

I just don't know if I should run it off the magneto, or off of the front-wheel friction generator I have? Either way it won't get used too much, but it'll be very nice when it does =)
 
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Pilotgeek

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I'm not a fan of the whole "cram as many LEDs into a flashlight as you can" mentality. I've got a .25 watt Cree LED flashlight (It's an aluminium high-powered flashlight by Coleman). It's one single extremely bright LED, and it has a proper LED driver which is more efficient and can act as a regulator. The lights with a ton of LEDs usually just have a resistor for each LED, which hogs power.

Coleman 3AAA Ultra High Power Aluminum LED Flashlight
 
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xenodius

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I'm not a fan of the whole "cram as many LEDs into a flashlight as you can" mentality. I've got a .25 watt Cree LED flashlight (It's an aluminium high-powered flashlight by Coleman). It's one single extremely bright LED, and it has a proper LED driver which is more efficient and can act as a regulator. The lights with a ton of LEDs usually just have a resistor for each LED, which hogs power.
I'm not either, I linked both the 50-pack and the CREE LED, but I'll probably use the CREE LED for that exact reason! I think .35 watts should be fine off the magneto, as long as it runs half-decent-- I probably won't be going top-speed at night anyway. =) five bucks for a driver and high-power LED is great if you already have a good housing.
 

Pilotgeek

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The flashlight I'm using is rated for 140 Lumens, so really it's probably just slightly dimmer than the big bundle of LEDs flashlight you've got. The thing I like about the Cree LED is the low power draw. It also has a nice focused beam / cone of light. I'm betting it's more efficient in lumens per watt. I know they make higher wattage LEDs, but this seemed to be a good balance of price and power draw.
 
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Pilotgeek

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I'm not either, I linked both the 50-pack and the CREE LED, but I'll probably use the CREE LED for that exact reason! I think .35 watts should be fine off the magneto, as long as it runs half-decent-- I probably won't be going top-speed at night anyway. =) five bucks for a driver and high-power LED is great if you already have a good housing.
Be sure you use a good heatsink! The single LED solutions are my favorite but they do get rather warm and can burn out without a heatsink. It's not as big of an issue with the low wattage (under 1W) ones, but the issue is still there.
 

bigbutterbean

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havent been able to get over to my buddy's house to put a fuse on the light yet, so havent been using the light a lot except on test rides, just to make sure it still works, and it does. just been busy and been doing other stuff on the bike. added a shock fork and a neck with allen head bolts.
 

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well, its a good thing this light has 50 led's. I blew one LED already. I dont know if it was due to vibration or voltage overload, but I guess it cant handle being used as a headlight either way. Im going to put it back on battery power for now. wonderful creations store on ebay has a headlight with a built in regulator. it is 2 super bright led's and is about 270 lumen. it is around $16 plus shipping. Im going to order that next month. This headlight basically started out to see how viable the white wire was as a power source for super bright lights. it gave me a positive result in knowing that the white wire can effectively power a headlight, which is great. I may still keep this headlight on the bike when I get the other headlight. that way, if I run out of gas, I will still have a useable headlight.
 

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Bigbutterbean.
I don't think the 50 led that I saw pulled from 4 AA batteries. I blew one that had three batteries when I was experimenting with different lights. The 76 led light that I got on e-bay has given me no problems but it uses 4 AA batteries which = 6 volts.

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bigbutterbean

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Bigbutterbean.
I don't think the 50 led that I saw pulled from 4 AA batteries. I blew one that had three batteries when I was experimenting with different lights. The 76 led light that I got on e-bay has given me no problems but it uses 4 AA batteries which = 6 volts.

.duh.

I dont know what 50 led light you saw, but the one I bought ran on 4 aa batteries. it came with 4 aa batteries in it right out of the package. so i know its a 6v light. but the one i saw on ebay has a built in regulator and is made for a 6v system. i actually tried switching my current light back to battery power, and it flickered a lot, so i hooked it back up to the white wire. i only have to wait a month to order my other light, and dont ride at night very often, so if this one blows in the mean time, oh well.