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Old 05-07-2014, 08:54 AM
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Motorized Bicycle Newbie
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Wales, United Kingdom
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Default Re: Newbie from Wales

Thanks guys! Evogav, thank you very much for that info! I stillll haven't got around to buying an engine- after much research I have made a parts list & mods list and a basic build plan and I have decided that I need to spend about 2000GBP or $3000US to get the type of bike that I want, sacrificing as little of the original functionality of the bicycle as possible. So it's going to take well into the summer to even save up for phase 1 of my build (frame and drivetrain, engine with stealth mods) so I'm just collecting the little parts that are available locally (and also could be used on my "normal" bikes) until I get enough cash together to start building a multi-speed multi-range drivetrain. I'm still excited, I just know it's going to be a slow process now getting parts together. Hopefully I will finish the build next January when the bike shops are doing good discounts on bars and brakes and stuff. Until then I plan to borrow some parts off one of my Carrera Subway 2 mountain-roadbike hybrids.
Okay so as I said I made a quick parts list and here's the parts I think I "need" to get motoring:

Surly Disc Trucker Frame & Fork, 700c Version (26"x2.1 tyre clearance) (330)
Transformercycles : 69.7cc 2-stroke "GT4" slant-head motor kit with 8mm studs (200) ***--- OR
rose329a : 66cc Engine ONLY + Chrome Muffler (105ish?)
Halo SAS Wheelset 26"x36mm 36/48h (124)
Shimano Saint PD-MX80 Pedals (50)
Shimano Deore M615 Brakes (60)
Sturmey Archer Parking Brake Lever (Right) (8)
FSA The Pig sealed headset (20)
Cinelli 65* Stem (15, SJS)
KCNC Rampant 6061 Alloy Flat Wide Bar (24, SJS)
Seatpost Gusset Lofty 27.2mm (22.50, Wiggle)
Rear Rack (disc compatible and wide) (?)
Front chainrings, 30T, 42T, 54T, 48T (?)
Cheap cycle computer x2 (20, eBay)
FSA Control Center computer mount, 31.8mm (10)
Torque wrench (3/8") 10-80NM range (24 , eBay)
Compression Tester (15, Amazon)
Gear pullers [set of 3, 4, 6"] (15, eBay)
ISIS Bottom Bracket Remover (10, Amazon)
Dremel (40-97)
KMC HL710 nickel plated BMX chain (22 at
Shimano 9-speed chain (16-26)
Bionicon C.Guide V.02 (35, Evans)
shimano-r443-triple-89-speed-front-derailleur (20, Wiggle)
Tacx Ball Bearing Jockey Wheels (10, Amazon)
Scrap Alu to practise dremel work and some for making RHS chain tensioners
Derailleur Cable & Outer (20-25)
Red Tacky Grease (4, eBay)
JB Weld (10)
Carburettor Cleaner (4 eBay)
Fuel filter (about 5)
Fuel tap (under 10)
Fuel tank (small plastic) (up to 15, eBay)
Silicon Hose 13mm polyester reinforced 200C (8 per metre)
High quality synthetic/castor 80/20 oil to run (18 per L)
RTV Silicone Gasket Maker (5)
Alcohol & Turps (?)
320 grit sandpaper (?)
Kopr Kote (UK equivalent of) for head gasket (?)
Petroleum-based oil to break in (?)
Nice new drill bits (??)
Tap set (small) (??)
Lots of spare flat washers and lock washers (?)
Pipe fastener (for exhaust pipe lower mount) (?)
Silicon Hose 30" (8 per metre)
Shrink tube 6mm diameter (?)
Spare woodruff keys (mower shop) (?)
Valve grinding paste (4, eBay)
Loctite 222 (low strength threadlock) (4, eBay)
Loctite 263 (high strength threadlock for studs) (4, eBay)
Loctite 243 (50ml) (medium strength threadlock) (14)
Helmet mirror (10)
Road Helmet (58, Wiggle)
--- Check On One for Schwalbe tyres.
Schwalbe Marathon Plus Tour 26"x2.0" (50x559) (25 each, Wiggle)
Schwalbe Kojak Folding 26"x2.0" (36, Wiggle) (light spare tyre to carry)
Schwalbe Marathon XR 26" x? (?) (tough & heavy tyre)
Schwalbe Mondial 26"x2.15" (45 each, Wiggle) (toughest & heaviest touring tyre)
Schwalbe Big Apple LiteSkin Kevlar Guard Folding Tyre 26"x? (50 pair in sales)
Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 26"x2.0" (x2) (36 each, Wiggle) (light & slick racing tyre)
Schwalbe Big Apple 16"x2.0" (?)
Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro Folding Tyre 26" x 2.10 (54-559) 695g (70 pair) maybe??
Schwalbe Winter Spiked 1.75" (47-559) (26 each, Wiggle)

U.S.A stuff:
SBP : Head Stud kit M8x1.0 OR M8x1.25 ($10)
SBP : Engine Hardware kit ($10)
SBP : 2 Stroke HD Shifter kit ($200) ---MINUS crankset, bottom bracket, the FW chainrings, chain
SBP : ISIS Crankset ($38)
SBP : Bottom Bracket Cartridge 148mm x 68mm ($47)
SBP : Chain Tensioner - Primary/Left Side ($33)
SBP : Front Engine Mount - large for mount stud spacing (??mm) and downtube diameter (??mm) ($15)
SBP : Freewheel Spider - 5 arm 130mm BCD ($24)
SBP : 9 tooth sprocket ($7)
SBP : Keys ($3)
SBP : NGK Iridium BPR6HIX x2 ($14)
SBP : Silicon tube 6" ($7)
SBP : Engine Sound Dampeners ($14)
SBP : Head Gasket 8mm ($5)
SBP : Grip shift 8spd ($16)
SBP : 10T Engine Output Sprocket ($TBA)
SBP : Dragonfly (Jaguar) CDI inc. coil
Juice Moto Parts : Titanium wrist pin ($19) : 2.5L underslung gas tank??? ($35) (sh!tty company to order from allegedly)
JNMotors : Throttle cable
JNMotors : Clutch Cover Gasket ($5)
JNMotors : TTO Temp Guage ($40)
JNMotors : HP Walbro Carb Kit +RSE Reed Valve Kit "Stage 2 ($190) -- r.e. Thermal Isolation Spacer!!!

Locally available parts: (1252 + shipping + at least 20 items not yet priced up)
U.S. parts: ($776 + shipping/tax) ($776 = 470)
(1252+ 470 = 1722 )

1722 + shipping/tax from U.S.A. + parts not yet priced up) ($2834+ !)

+ 24" wheelset and tyres

What is the front engine mount stud spacing (centre to centre), is it 41mm, or 48mm?
Do/can I get a spare 10 tooth output sprocket?
Do/can I get a gear puller included?
What is the thread pitch of the 8mm studs?
Can I get just the engine and exhaust, not the whole kit?

Looks like an exciting build huh? :P Looks like it'll take me a LONGGG time to save up for all those parts!! Oh well!
Thanks for the welcome everybody!

EDIT: I should mention the frame listed is 700C version of the Surly Disc Trucker, plan is to use it with a 4" travel Marzocchi Bomber fork, open oil bath SIMPLE fork. The 700C S.D.T. has a huge BB "drop" and the longest chainstays of any "normal" (not longbike) touring bike, and IMO will kick ass with the front lifted by a longer fork on it and then the whole bike dropped down onto those bombproof 26" MTB wheels. >

Last edited by FurryOnTheInside; 05-07-2014 at 03:04 PM.
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