O.K. went and did some research,I did order a powerking pk80 from piratecycles yesterday! seems like a good deal and some good upgrades on the hardware.And from all the reviews looks like customer service is great! my exp. with them is wow they got it out already! That was quick! Now to find a bike I'm looking at workmen bikes they seem like they are built well but need to talk to someone who has one! some of the micargi models seem pretty cool looking but quality? and will they hold up to an engine?