I have a Firmstrong Bruiser that desperately needed some front suspension, and I happened to be going down ocean park blvd. and BAM! there was the shop. I popped in to buy a pair and wound up having a great talk with the owner, David, and he said to wait. Newer HD version coming. so each week I would stop in with my cash, and he would say, " almost man, we are making more improvements. soon. next week". so after about a month I finally got a pair. they are awesome. Heavy. but awesome. very stiff, and I'm thinking about using them on my current track bike build. as for now, I will post some shots of the Bruiser they went on. all the kinks are pretty much ironed out, but I feel kinda honored, knowing that this, gentlemen, is the first operating pair and you need to get yourself a pair as well!