Originally Posted by Goat Herder
Believe it or not I have seen first hand 14 gauge spokes take an utterly amazing beating and not break!
I am not personally fond of rag joints.
The proper term or term I always hear it by is cold tensioning for proper spoke torque.
First off... to the OP... Use 12 gage spokes & you'll not have any more problems!
GH... Yes, there are many 14 gage spokes that hold up without any problems; but there are some that are just weaker. (& I wish I could tell the difference.