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Default Re: Looking for advice on purchase

Originally Posted by Riverthruit View Post
New members here. Me and my cousin are both building motorized mountain bikes this fall/winter. We live in Davenport, Iowa. And both are 5'8" and 140lbs. Been riding BMX, and motoX all our lives.

We plan on modifying our bikes, porting, exhaust, intake etc and some custom parts from local CNC shops, possibly a shift kit etc.

Wanting reliability and a bike that can cruise at 30mph+ easily for extended periods of time.

What engine do you recommend we each buy? 66cc or 80cc? Skyhawk? Links are welcome.
All my builds are with a are some tips on installing the engine.

These are the things that I do, I see that others such as the seals (which I've never had one go bad) mentioned. All these mods or replacements are most likely less then $50.00. Choose what works for you, ignore the rest, but here you have them.

1. Unpack engine, familiarize your self with them.
2. Check for any missing parts. Depending who you buy from you maybe out of luck.
Two sellers come to mind. Luckyearlybird and BGF.
3. Remove head
4. Mill head (flat glass and 230 (or finer) grit sand paper. Rub gasket surface to insure
it is flat. Check the cylinder also. This will ensure that you have a good gasket
surface. Eliminates blown head gaskets by a large percentage. At this point inspect
the rings. Some have been broken from the factory. Pay attention, the ring grove (on
the piston) has alignment pins in it.
Ring alignment pin and Alignment pin
5. Tap cylinder stud holes to insure they are taped to the bottom. Some engines aren’t
taped to the bottom. This can be a problem with the studs pulling out..
6. Discard all studs and nuts. Studs the length of the cylinder are hard to find.
Fastener supply has metric all thread. There are a number of vendors that have kits,
including myself. But replace them.
7. Replace studs with Metric 8.8 (US Grade 5) Replace nuts with locking nuts. 8mm
studs are either 1.0 or 1.25 thread, 6mm studs are 1.0 thread. 8mmX1.0 is not
common, but I have 1 engine with them. Do this because the Chinese hardware is
junk and prone to strip or shear off.
8. Replace spark plug with a NGK or any good brand.
9. Replace spark plug wire and boot (check with lawnmower supply) or rob from old
lawnmower. Use wire core lead. The stock is junk and WILL cause problems down
the road.
10. Mount the engine properly, no gaps between the bike tubes and engine mounts.
Engine mounting This will also help to keep the studs from snapping off.
11. Torque 8mm to 120 to 175 INCH POUNDS (max for cast aluminum is 204 inch
12. Torque 6mm to 60-70 INCH POUNDS (max on these are 75 inch pounds).
13. I install cylinder studs with lock tite, and let set overnight. Optional, I do it to all
my builds.
14. I coat the head gasket with Copper Kote (I coat each side twice and let dry)
15. May need to bend exhaust pipe for crank or frame clearance. Recommend using
heat. There are other methods, but you won’t hear that from me.
16. Remove or cap magneto white wire off. This is used for low watt lights…it won’t
work with a light you can see with, believe me.
17. Re solder blue wire on magneto. Factory has had bad connections, (cold solder
18. Wiring. BLACK Coil wire to BLACK CDI wire, BLUE coil wire to BLUE CDI
19. When hooking the kill switch, don’t be concerned with wire colors. Hook one
wire to the black wires, and the other wire to the blue wires. (See # 21)
20. Make sure all wires have a good connection (solder best) and use tape or better
yet heat shrink.
21. Hook up kill switch wires AFTER you get engine running. This will eliminate a
defective switch should you have trouble starting the engine.
22. Try not to drill holes in the bike frame. Weakens the frame, I did one and the
frame split in two.
23. Do away with the clutch cable routing; there are a number of options.
24. On my kit the rag joint had gauge (Metric) 8.8 bolts, If not replace them. I
replaced the nuts with lock nuts.
25. I sealed the wires coming from the magneto out of the engine with RTV.
26. Place a “O” ring in the carburetor throat. NAPA has an assortment. Buy them
27. Some say replace the axle with a better one. Never had an axle bend on me.
28. Use thin wire (I use Stainless safety wire).and wrap around the idle screw and
secure to the carburetor. Secured idle screw

29. For coaster brakes…Some say trim the cap, but I don't like it.
Coaster brake bearing cap modification or a file of sorts can be used.
Looking for HT's parts?
HT pre instillation tips.
Engine running problems?
HT breakdown Photos

Ron ><)))))*> Calera, Alabama
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