I know, pictures would help and I will try to get some posted. Asked a hoarder friend of mine if he had any old bikes and he came up with a couple for me. I think they are from the same manufacturer, braced front fork, skip tooth, parallel bars on top of the frame, rear adjusters, pinch bolt in the frame to tighten the seat, and one has the cast? frame pieces with the frame tubes welded or brazed in. The good blind ID feature they both have is the front sprocket, the holes are heart-shaped. Any ideas?