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Discussion at Motorized Bicycle Engine Kit Forum in the Motorized Electric Bicycles forum. I have four EV Warriors that are great bikes The one I ride most of the time (Metallic Green) has ...
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Old 04-06-2009, 07:15 PM
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I have four EV Warriors that are great bikes
The one I ride most of the time (Metallic Green) has 1,800 miles on it and the only repairs have been to replace the roller pins.
Its an easy fix and the pins are simple roll pins that cost practically nothing.
The next two bikes ( Regular Green and Blue) have been ridden very little, so I removed the batteries and set the bikes aside. The fourth bike, a Beautiful Red one is Brand New and never been ridden.
I got these bikes through a friend that bought the bike companies bankrupt stock of some 250 units when the company went belly up. I have been able to find new spare parts and complete electronic assemblies including head light and taillight units, mirrors, controllers, rollers and numerous wiring harnesses.
I have found that the EV Warrior, being some 13 years old now, is still well ahead of its time and I have not seen anything produced today that even comes close to it.
What I do find depressing is that many of it parts such as the Bosch Electric motors are being scooped up for other applications that limits the stock for those remaining Warriors.
Fortunately, I also purchased several complete motor assemblies and housing frames for backup.
Its unfortunate that Bricklin got greedy and blew the whole organization as the warrior would be the leader in electric bikes today. I personally think they are anyway.
The EV Warrior is also very stylish and I ran across a new electric bike at a bike shop just recently that looked so antiquated and had a price tag of $2,700.
It was not as fast as the Warrior and the range was similar.
However it did come with Lithium Ion batteries.
I asked the dealer how much to replace the batteries and he said around $500.00.
These Warriors are looking better every day.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:14 AM
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I just found out that electric assist bikes are illegal here. Go figure. Illegal only because the definition of a motorized bicycle does not include electric powered bikes. Electric powered scooters/mopeds are legal. Gas powered bikes are okay, but must follow guidelines for mopeds, ie; lights, mirrors, 50cc engine, etc. <sigh>
E-Bike were not mentioned in NH either. I figured no law on the subject, not illegal. I followed bicycle guidelines. Rode right by cops every night in downtown Concord. No Hassles. NH has a new classification for MB's, Motor-driven Cycle. I'm not quite sure what to make of it.This thread is a tad old, and your planning you build. I just thought I'd mention that.

Rokky- Thanks for the info! Intro's are customary. I imagine you was busting at the seams to pass along your info. I made the same error, not a really big deal. We just like to get to know our members to better help.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:46 AM
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They are passing a new moped law here but they keep defining them in cc's and engines so I'm going with that does not apply to emotors.
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:38 PM
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E-Bike were not mentioned in NH either. I figured no law on the subject, not illegal. I followed bicycle guidelines. Rode right by cops every night in downtown Concord. No Hassles. NH has a new classification for MB's, Motor-driven Cycle. I'm not quite sure what to make of it.This thread is a tad old, and your planning you build. I just thought I'd mention that.
Nah, check out the other thread. I already have 2 ebikes.

Yeah, I guess on the other side, like you and Deacon said, if it isn't mentioned, it's a non-issue and is legal. Besides, the cops got better things to do than hassle an old fart riding AND pedaling under 20 mph on a bike.
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:01 PM
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I agree... If either of us was a pretty young woman in shorts and a halter top maybe we would need to worry.
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Old 04-08-2009, 04:29 AM
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Hi Guys,
here in California Motorized Bicycles come under two definitions.
One for an internal combustion engine and the other an electrical motor.
The electric can be with or without pedals for human propulsion.
They describe the electric bicycle as a vehicle with pedals and an electrical motor (not more then 1000 watts) which cannot be driven at speeds of more then 20 mph on level ground even if assisted by human power. The motor must stop when the brakes are applied or the starter switch is released. (VC 406b)
They further state that if you operate a motorized bicycle which meets the definition of (VC 406b) (that would be electrical) you must be 16 years of age or older.
Must wear a property fitted and fastened bicycle helmet.
You are exempt from motor vehicle financial responsibility, drivers license, and moped plate requirements.
It has been common knowledge that if you are over 16 years of age you are not required to wear a helmet, however this is not stated in the DMV handbook.

Now when it comes to a motorized scooter, that is defined as any two wheeled "device" with:
A motor, handle bars, and a floorboard for standing on when riding, and the option of having a drivers seat which cannot interfere with the operators ability to stand and ride and the ability to be powered by human propulsion. The motorized scooters exhaust must not be modified or altered.
In reference to the electric bicycle this is a little confusing because my Warriors are 900 watts which puts me just under the 1000 watt limit, however if I apply full electrical power and apply peddle power using the 6th gear I can exceed the 20 mph speed limit.
On occasion I have reached 45 mph on a decline.

Now when they refer to the motorized scooter there is no mention of electric power and from the description they seemed to be referring to a small stand on scooter with a gas engine.
Since there are electric scooters on the market that look like a Vespa and are under 1000 watts its confusing as to what category they fall under.
X-treme makes several models under 1000 watts that come with peddles and are supposed to qualify as a moped and do not require the M1 California license, insurance and plates.
I guess the only way to be sure of any of this is to go down to the DMV and find out in person.
However, that means waiting in line for hours.
I hope I have explained this properly as I think I have confused myself.
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Old 04-08-2009, 09:00 PM
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all cops everywhere dont care if you have a electric bike.
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