| | | Motorized Electric Bicycles The motorized electric bicycle is a quiet and efficient form of transportation for general commuting. | E-cruiser Discussion at Motorized Bicycle Engine Kit Forum in the Motorized Electric Bicycles forum. i'm going to try my hand at an electric bike, i know nothing about e-bikes so i bought a plug ...  | | 
02-04-2010, 06:27 AM
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| | E-cruiser i'm going to try my hand at an electric bike, i know nothing about e-bikes so i bought a plug and play kit. Electric Bikes, Bicycle Conversion Kits, System, Renewable Energy Hybrid Vehicles got it yesterday, only took 3 days, very fast shiping and was packaged really well. everything looks to be well built, wheel is heavy duty with 12g spokes. after looking everything over and reading the instructions i have some questions.
there is a set of wires loop pluged together that say speed governor, i'm guessing that unpluging them will give more speed, how does that work.
it also has regen braking that can be unpluged, is there any advantage to not using the regen.
i'm going to build it as a big fendered cruiser with the battery and controler inside a fake gas tank. working on 4 other bikes for customers so it will be awhile before i can get to this project, just wanted to get some info on it. thanks. john | 
02-04-2010, 07:03 AM
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| | Re: E-cruiser Unless you live at the beach you will not be happy with less than a 500 watt motor. It is one thing to pedal assist because you want to and quite another to pedal assist because you have to almost ALL the time.
I found that 500 watt 36v is the best for me, but as around about motor siZe before you jump in especially with a hub kit they are too expensive to under buy. I know I have one that collects dust. | 
02-04-2010, 08:47 AM
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| | Re: E-cruiser Hi Cam, I am not as pessimistic about the power level as Deacon.
I rigged up a 250 watt 24v scooter motor on my bike and when the batterys are up it is fine.
I do pedal with it, but it pulled up an overpass that I normally have to work at much better than pedal power alone.
5oo watts is 3/4 hp and the blurb on the link said that was not max power level for your kit. They put max at 700w - very close to one hp. Very interseting motor set- up too, with the variable power settings.
There is a website called Endless-sphere that has a bike section (seems hard to find though) give them a shot for questions.
A couple of guys on the other forum may know some stuff too.. | 
02-04-2010, 09:02 AM
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| | Re: E-cruiser i'm a member on the endless sphere site but i've never posted there, just lurk there a lot. there pretty hard on e-dummy newbs over there. once i build this and learn a little i would like to add more battery power and maybe take it up to 48V, but i'll start out as is and see how it runs.
i would like to get into electric because here in ohio the gas bikes are not legal but electric is, i build a lot of bikes but can't sell any local, lot of people asking for electric here.
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02-04-2010, 11:07 AM
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| | Re: E-cruiser Hello,
I can't speak to the regen issue but the two wires are for motor surpression in case you take the bike to Europe. It will limit your speed to about 13 mph. Most of us put a switch on it and sometimes you will see it referred to as a turbo switch. I run an Ampedbikes 500W rear kit now on a 700C hybrid at 36V. I am moving up to 48 volts but not for speed; more power with less amps for a longer ride. I also went back to SLA batteries and running 48 volts at 12 amps. The batteries are heavy but I'm using the Electricrider.com SLA battery brackets and simuleather bages; check them out. Try the Ampedbikes forum as well. I visit them all.
Dave
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02-04-2010, 05:01 PM
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| | Re: E-cruiser Hi John, when you do get around to your build, I suggest you have the bottom of your fake gastank open so the controller can get some cool air. You don't want to fry it.
I did look at the posts on Ohio laws (in the legal section of this site) and gas bikes are legal where you are. Check it out. | 
02-05-2010, 06:14 AM
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| | Re: E-cruiser thanks for the info on the speed wires. also can i mount the charger and leave it pluged into the battery all the time and just plug into 120V any time or should the charger be only hooked to the batery when charging.
as far as ohio goes, i've been to the dmv and showed them those rules, they show you other rules that make it a moped, then go to the list for accepted manufactures, which were not on and deny you a registration. the wildfire bikes are the only MB legal in ohio. they did what ever hoop jumping it took to get legal. | 
02-08-2010, 05:27 PM
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| | Re: E-cruiser Quote:
Originally Posted by camlifter thanks for the info on the speed wires. also can i mount the charger and leave it pluged into the battery all the time and just plug into 120V any time or should the charger be only hooked to the batery when charging.
as far as ohio goes, i've been to the dmv and showed them those rules, they show you other rules that make it a moped, then go to the list for accepted manufactures, which were not on and deny you a registration. the wildfire bikes are the only MB legal in ohio. they did what ever hoop jumping it took to get legal. | allways plug the charger into the 120v outlet first,then into the battery!also,dont charge outside.you will be buying a new charger in less than 2 weeks. | 
02-08-2010, 05:37 PM
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| | Re: E-cruiser Quote:
Originally Posted by camlifter thanks for the info on the speed wires. also can i mount the charger and leave it pluged into the battery all the time and just plug into 120V any time or should the charger be only hooked to the batery when charging.
as far as ohio goes, i've been to the dmv and showed them those rules, they show you other rules that make it a moped, then go to the list for accepted manufactures, which were not on and deny you a registration. the wildfire bikes are the only MB legal in ohio. they did what ever hoop jumping it took to get legal. | I just got a 48v1000w front hub kit and 48v20ah lifepo4 battery from V power on e bay for only $800.it hits 36mph!only prob,the little screwbox conector for controller to hub motor is not shielded enough and will burn up and cause a short.threw that away and reconected the wires and no problems since. | 
02-08-2010, 06:03 PM
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| | Re: E-cruiser Quote:
Originally Posted by camlifter thanks for the info on the speed wires. also can i mount the charger and leave it pluged into the battery all the time and just plug into 120V any time or should the charger be only hooked to the batery when charging.
as far as ohio goes, i've been to the dmv and showed them those rules, they show you other rules that make it a moped, then go to the list for accepted manufactures, which were not on and deny you a registration. the wildfire bikes are the only MB legal in ohio. they did what ever hoop jumping it took to get legal. | I havent tried any of those mini geared hub motors.how fast is it?I have 3 kits.a 36v wilderness energy(23mph)48v golden motors(23mph)and 48v v power(36mph)yeah,its an outlaw machine!lolIts on a prado deluxe I modified.144 spoke 26x3 rear wheel,cruiser seat and bmx handlebars.I put bmx handlebars on all my bikes.I'm wierd like that | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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