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03-01-2008, 09:09 PM
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| | Re: Alcohol fuel and bicycle engines If I was doing it I'd say Ok all you sob's it the hogs againt everyone that would be a good sight to see. Those hogs could fly into a cessna and spit it out their exhaust pipe. I'm dreaming but I'd like tosee a hog open up with its nose cannon. Some of the major parts for its cannon were manafactured in my home town in Illinois. The barrels big enough you can stick your thumb in it. 20mm I think it a bad boy machine down and dirty Tough as nails from what I saw when it was in the desert war in Iraq. Kind of like a timex take a licking and keep on ticking.
Norman
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03-01-2008, 09:47 PM
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| | Re: Alcohol fuel and bicycle engines i feel for the pilots that are afraid to talk to us. i have had 7 planes go down since 1975 and 6 were because they were afraid to call us untill to late. those 6 got lost and ran out of gas. don't see that to much anymore with gps. i try to get all students to visit the tower and it helps alot with their fear. should maybe take your friend to the tower one day. it really does help | 
03-02-2008, 07:29 AM
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| | Re: Alcohol fuel and bicycle engines Cruiser, thats exactly what my instructor did with me. He took me up into the tower in OK City. I got to visit with the guys up there and you know what. Ya'll are just regular guys. Of course I've never been afraid to talk to anyone, in person or on a radio. I guess just different personalities. Oh and just to keep the thread on topic, I think Norman made some excellent points on alcohol use...............
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03-02-2008, 04:59 PM
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| | Re: Alcohol fuel and bicycle engines And too boot I doubt these little nasty engines will make that much more power on alcohol, especially with the supplied carburetor. | 
03-02-2008, 06:08 PM
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| | Re: Alcohol fuel and bicycle engines You might be surprised but its really a pain if you do go to alcohol. If you don't take the precautions it will screw your engine up and can take it out very quick it will melt that piston to the cylinder in a heart beat if run lean or make it spit the rod out side. You might need to go to an adjustable carb they will cost almost as much as the engine kit. All the carbs I use for alcohol have an adjustable main jet. Even the simple old posa jet carbs had a mixture adjustment on the main. It even has a fixed main under the mixture screw that you had to drill out to 0.048 to 0.062 range fine tuning was with the mixture screw under power. I tried it on the stand one time and I had to build a new engine over revved it with out trying. Spit the rod right outside the block. The outlaw engine is using a tilliston carb drilled for alcohol and has adjustment for low and high speed . You can run alcohol but be ready to burn one up they are not forgiving,lot more to take care of the flushing will wear you out.
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03-03-2008, 03:58 PM
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| | Re: Alcohol fuel and bicycle engines Some of the crazy things when running alcohol is when the engine is idleing, if you can call it that, it spits raw fuel out of the exhaust, sometime you smell formaldehyde cause of incomplete combustion, which is a cancer causing agent(but only in the state of calif.) so those of us who don't live there have nothing to worry about. Right?! We all like to smell those kind of fumes don't we?!!
but then again.No I'm not going to alcohol.
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04-13-2008, 12:48 PM
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| | Re: Alcohol fuel and bicycle engines Norm is 100% correct. I used just a little nitro and had a wrist pin go out on me. I have used fuel fragrence, which I think is mostly alcohol but you use so little that I have not had any problems and the kid's down the street love it. | 
08-13-2008, 10:04 PM
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| | Re: Alcohol fuel and bicycle engines Any alcohol burned as a fuel. If available, any alcohol may be used as a fuel, but ethanol and methanol are the only ones which are sufficiently inexpensive. Alcohols are useful fuels, even though the oxygen atom in any alcohol molecule reduces its heating value, because the molecular structure increases the combustion efficiency. See also Combustion; Gasoline.
Ethanol burns well in engines designed for gasoline and has a high octane rating. However, because of the high cost of the raw materials required, or of their conversion, it costs much more than gasoline. Gasohol is produced by dissolving 5–15% absolute (water-free) alcohol in gasoline. The 5% water fraction in 95% alcohol causes phase separation because of its insolubility, making 95% alcohol unsuitable for use in gasohol. See also Ethyl alcohol; Octane number.
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08-20-2008, 06:08 PM
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| | Re: Alcohol fuel and bicycle engines Alcohol in a 2 stroke is a bad thing, but in a 4 stroke is OK.
I used a 4 stroke engine for this test.
I tried a little denatured alcohol from walmart and it worked. It just worked, far from great. It ran lean so I adjusted the needle valve and that helped. It still idled like crap but oh well. IF you get the engine to start,dont kill it.Or you'll never get it to start. I started my engine on gas then it ran on alcohol.
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