synthetic oil?

**2door** · #11 (**permalink**) 06-08-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by matt167

outboard oil is designed diffrently than normal 2 stroke oil and will ruin your engine..

Matt is absolutely correct here. Outboard motor oil is formulated for water cooled engines and is not intended for use in air cooled engines. There is a difference in additives and lubricating qualities and the outboard oil can cause some real expensive problems for you.
Tom

RPM · #12 (**permalink**) 06-08-2009, 10:11 PM

Hi guys, I'm new to the forum. Nice site and very talented people here.

Couldn't help but notice "brucemg51" post in regard to the synthetic oil mix per instructions.

These are the same instructions with the mix that we have been using the last decade for our chainsaws.

What they are saying bruce is mix the whole 2.6 oz. with one gallon of gas. Any engine requiring anyone of these ratios (50:1 40:1 32:1 & 16:1) it will work. Its a synthetic oil, its designed for this application.

Welcome to the Revolution!

RPM

kallsop · #13 (**permalink**) 06-08-2009, 10:34 PM

I wouldn't advise anyone to copy me, but I did a lot of reading and am satisfied the crude China Girl will be just fine on the Walmart TCW3 which is probably a much higher quality oil than these engines ever get in China.

The Late Great Oil Debate

I suppose it you're going to run the engine at 7000+ rpm's all day long, you might want the peace of mind of a much more expensive oil. Now if I had a Rotax....

drhofferber · #14 (**permalink**) 06-08-2009, 10:39 PM

i have to agree with you matt...it has a mineral oil base...i have used lucas at 50 to 1 and forget it...i dont know whats in that stuff but i got about 30 miles per gallon when i mixed it...i'm a amisol man...Dennis

a-dam · #15 (**permalink**) 06-09-2009, 02:34 AM

Oil, politics, religion. Sure to get replies. Also, top speed and the best way to polish chrome.

My homelite blower motor used 50:1 (any old kind) with no problem. I just switched to Amsoil Saber (80:1) just to keep things cleaner. I don't expect any miracles.

After reading the previous threads, I will say this...

I wouldn't use marine oil - like matt and 2door said.

City of angels mentioned using 20:1 for the first 2 gallons, then 32:1. That sounds like someone going through a new-motor break-in. I've always heard to NOT use synthetic while breaking-in.
If synthetic really prevents wear so much that a motor will not break-in properly, it must be great for a broke-in motor, eh?

drhofferber · #16 (**permalink**) 06-09-2009, 04:47 AM

strange...i've used amisol on all of my break-ins...i think it gets in places regular oil cannt..i also throw in a little z-max for good measure...Dennis

matt167 · #17 (**permalink**) 06-09-2009, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kallsop

I wouldn't advise anyone to copy me, but I did a lot of reading and am satisfied the crude China Girl will be just fine on the Walmart TCW3 which is probably a much higher quality oil than these engines ever get in China.

The Late Great Oil Debate

I suppose it you're going to run the engine at 7000+ rpm's all day long, you might want the peace of mind of a much more expensive oil. Now if I had a Rotax....

TCW3 outboard oil is designed for use in a water cooled engine, which run cooler and do not suffer from hot spots.. it's not designed to take the extra heat and will ash easier.. I'm pretty sure it even says not for air cooled engines on the back of the containers..

TerrontheSnake · #18 (**permalink**) 06-09-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by drhofferber

strange...i've used amisol on all of my break-ins...i think it gets in places regular oil cannt..i also throw in a little z-max for good measure...Dennis

I believe on all my synthetic oil packages it says regular petroleum base gas should be used for break in. I love synthetics though!!!

**Norman** · #19 (**permalink**) 06-09-2009, 07:14 PM

You guys have started a whizzing match with this wrong oil is better then NO oil. I say use what works for you. I like the cheapest I can find syn or the regular stuff. I have tried 50 to 1 with no ill effects but I seem to like the 32 to 1 best.
I'm also fond of castor oil I like the smell but don't drink it!
Norman

Pablo · #20 (**permalink**) 06-09-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman

You guys have started a whizzing match with this wrong oil is better then NO oil. I say use what works for you. I like the cheapest I can find syn or the regular stuff. I have tried 50 to 1 with no ill effects but I seem to like the 32 to 1 best.
I'm also fond of castor oil I like the smell but don't drink it!
Norman

Can't blame the Amsoil guy for once!!!