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Discussion at Motorized Bicycle Engine Kit Forum in the Norm's 2 stroke repair center forum. thanx guys i will try to seal it without finding any leak and change to a 24:1 mix ill post ...
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:49 AM
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thanx guys i will try to seal it without finding any leak and change to a 24:1 mix

ill post update tonight
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:52 AM
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16:1 is too rich in oil and can by itself cause a lean condition....20:1 is O.K., and even 24:1 is kind of rich. BUT these engines are not close tolerance two strokes of the modern variety, so don't go any leaner than 24:1 in your gas to oil mix at least until you've gotten some miles on it.
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:27 PM
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MB Rport:

Last night *Luisa Capetillo took her first go round with a clean sounding iddle and super smooth acceleration, it sure sounds cool, "pop pop pop".

heres the detail:

1. noticed the carby head was in contact with the frame, took it out and even the motor moved a bit. I sanded the head with the dremmel till it fit all the way on the @intake.

2. Starting: pressed the little button, on choke, pedal, it wanted to start! Off Choke it started like on one go, pretty nice!

3. Iddle: low sounding rpm, but the engine slowly go's "plop plop plop plop" (i dont have a muffle right now.

4.accleration: 100's of times better than any time ive tried it....you could accel and then hit the clutch and cruise with iddling bike, pretty cool ride!

5. ran pretty cool....couldnt feel any overheat at all.

*Luisa Capetillo - the first Puertorrican woman to wear pants, was arrested for wearing mens clothing. She was a tough cookie. Had 3 sons without being married, and amongst other things, organized the tobbaco and cane industry workers...thats why i named my Worksman "Luisa".

@Intake: this intake was made for the bike, took some time but it fits the carby perfectly.
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Old 05-16-2009, 02:04 PM
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I have been using 32 to 1 mix( 1 gallon of regular gas to 4 oz. wall mart 2-stroke oil) even for break in I just take it easy no problems what so ever. I have a thermo heat gun and after flogging the bike max head temp is around 300 to 350 degrees f. I'd say right in the ball park for air cooled engines the out side air temp in the 80's to 90's F. I have a gauge for a tach / head temp off of my racing kart that will record the max rpm's and max head temp but haven't tried it that would give me the low down if I was worried about over doing it the problem is the cost of the gauge they are not cheap. It has a spot for an exhaust gas temp as well. I haven't the prob for the egt. Last one I bought was around $150.00 I think for the gauge and tach/head temp its also back lit so you can see it at night lots of other functions but it takes a double "A"battery lasts a long time, auto on and off very cool gauge.
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Old 05-16-2009, 03:53 PM
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i got lost there Norman.

just came from nice ride....the clutch cable broke on the handle bar part, the little metal that holds it in the handle bar snapped....

when i got back home, the intake tube was cold and with condensation drops all over, what does that mean?

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Old 05-16-2009, 11:26 PM
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You can replace the clutch cable with a cable set from wallmart about $5.00 for the set. Look over your lever make sure its not wearing the cable. once you get the cable set up and on the bike you can silver solder the end of the cable so it won't come unraveled.
Oil the cable before you use it, take the inner part clear out and oil the cable then insert it to use it.
The moisture is caused from the humid air your riding in the carb intake has a venturi which causes a pressure drop inside the carb and intake track this causes a heat rejection or a cooling effect sort of like a refrigeration effect on the outside body of the carb and intake pipe. It will not hurt a thing just something that happens when the conditions are right. You should see a Briggs racing engine carb when alcohol is used the carbs body will ice up on the outside has a heavy cooling effect especially on a pulsa jet carb set up for alcohol.
Now you can also get the same effect inside the carb that will make the engine stop dead in it tracks until the carb ice melts out.
Some aircraft have a thing called carb heat that is used when in you are in the landing mode or at low rpms, it draws heated air off a muff that is wrapped around the exhaust pipe to warn up the air going into the carb to prevent carb ice and a sudden engine stoppage.
I fly and have had the engine carb ice up in humid weather the engine will start to just loose power/rpm's will drop, you pull on the carb heat, the engine will run rough as yell until the ice is melted out makes for an interesting day. fuel injected engines don't have as much of a problem with carb ice.
fuel or gas and wet air with a pressure drop will form something that people in the gas operation in the oilfield call hydrates which is a name for an icey slug/snow ball that will burn if lit with a match. This will form in the cooling section of a compressor or any place where there is a pressure drop. It can cause some serious problems if not corrected. Methanol alcohol is used or injected to help prevent this problem or the temperature is kept above 70 degrees f. I think 60degrees f. is where hydrates start forming in a cooling bundle on a compressor.
well so much for hydrates 101.
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:01 AM
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thanx for that explanation, thankfully i dont think hydrates would afftect our 2-strokes.
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:14 PM
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You should not have a problem with hydrates/carb ice forming in the intake track but if the throttle starts to stick and you loose power, ice can from in the carb and intake track its happened to me once on a Hodaka along, long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away? Where have I heard that before? What?
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:23 PM
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my brothers bike lost the cap off his muffler and i cut a beer can off the bottom and welded it in to place seems to work pretty well but i would say if your still breaking the motor than i would wait till you get the new muffler your gonna wind up burning your rings
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:33 PM
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thanx bro, ill have that in mind, ive used it like this 4 times......3 mile rides....

hope i didnt over do it.
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