Titan on a Stanton Friction Drive

ut1205 · #1 (**permalink**) 09-13-2009, 06:27 PM

Has anyone put a Titan 4 stroke on a Stanton Friction drive setup? If so, other than the engine and throttle, what additional parts would be required.

I e-mailed Stanton about a Honda 49cc 4 stroke upgrade and even though they didn't tell me what parts are required, they priced the upgrade at $400.00+.

thatsdax · #2 (**permalink**) 09-13-2009, 06:41 PM

The Staton and BMP look nearly Identical. Except the Staton looks like aluminum painted black. I may be wrong, but it looks alloy to me. The BMP is Steel. Also. Not sure if the Roller for the Staton is a Sprag or not. But I must say, looking at the pictures, they look at or near the same in design and application. But.. Since I have never installed a Staton to Titan nor do I know yet anyone that has, I can not say if it will work. They do sell the Staton with the 76mm bell which is what you will need. I may have to purchase a Staton and give it a try. They look good. Staton does make good stuff for sure. Enjoy the ride...

ut1205 · #3 (**permalink**) 09-13-2009, 06:53 PM

Thanks for the reply. I have the EH035 R/S engine and am running a 1" roller due to hills. It has a 76 mm clutch. I am happy with it but wish it had a little more low end torque. On the flats it will do 21-22 mph and that's as fast as I want to go but I would like it not to "drop off" so much on hills. Would the Titan help with this? I don't want to go with the 3/4" roller because it would lower my top speed.

If you find out if it will fit please post it. I am a potential customer.

ocscully · #4 (**permalink**) 09-13-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ut1205

Thanks for the reply. I have the EH035 R/S engine and am running a 1" roller due to hills. It has a 76 mm clutch. I am happy with it but wish it had a little more low end torque. On the flats it will do 21-22 mph and that's as fast as I want to go but I would like it not to "drop off" so much on hills. Would the Titan help with this? I don't want to go with the 3/4" roller because it would lower my top speed.

If you find out if it will fit please post it. I am a potential customer.

If your current motor is the 35cc Robin the Titan will be a direct bolt up, remove and replace operation.

ocscully

ut1205 · #5 (**permalink**) 09-13-2009, 07:41 PM

Thanks for the reply. My Stanton kit came fully assembled so I didn't know if the bolt pattern was the same. I am assuming that I would use my existing "Clutch Bell". Don't know if the throttle cable "end" is the same. It appears that the Titan is a clone of the Honda GXH 50 engine. The Honda engine on Stanton's website is $269.00 so I don't know why they told me it would be over $400.00 to upgrade.

thatsdax · #6 (**permalink**) 09-13-2009, 08:49 PM

Well.. If the Titan performs as well on the Staton as it does for the BMP, you will have more climbing power than you can imagine. I am 6000-9000 feet and I have no problems pulling hills with the 1.25 inch roller. But again. I have not mounted a Titan to a Staton as of yet. On a bit of bad news, At around 50 miles, my Clutch bell has broken off of my BMP Kit roller. I noticed the well that attaches the bell to the Roller was shallow at best. Not sure why the welders would not put a more serious well on such a critical part. I will have to mention it to James at BMP . I will also update my post on Titan with BMP with pictures. I have a wire feed welder so it should be an easy fix. Also. It may just be that the welder missed my BMP kit. This is my first BMP kit to test with Titan. So.. It may be that mine was one of the missed welds. But. When I get done with it. IT will hold for sure.

Buddy · #7 (**permalink**) 09-14-2009, 12:34 AM

I have both a Titan and a Staton R/S EHO35 rack mount chain drives. It's kinda hard to do a direct comparison because the Staton uses a reduction gearbox but the Titan definitely pulls hills considerably better. I have to pedal on some hills with the Staton that the Titan will gain speed on if starting out at mid RPM. And the Titan will do that with higher gearing. I don't have a computer on the Staton yet but I'd guess it's top speed is about 5 MPH less than the Titan.

motorbiker · #8 (**permalink**) 09-14-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ut1205

Thanks for the reply. My Stanton kit came fully assembled so I didn't know if the bolt pattern was the same. I am assuming that I would use my existing "Clutch Bell". Don't know if the throttle cable "end" is the same. It appears that the Titan is a clone of the Honda GXH 50 engine. The Honda engine on Stanton's website is $269.00 so I don't know why they told me it would be over $400.00 to upgrade.

The friction drive kit with no motor is $229. Motorized Bicycles Detail Page

The motor is $269. Motorized Bicycles Detail Page

The kit with motor is $599. Motorized Bicycles Detail Page

I don't get it ?

thatsdax · #9 (**permalink**) 09-14-2009, 03:51 PM

It may be that the Honda motor comes with no rotor clutch or springs. The Clutch or rotor clutch must also be bought separate for the Honda. If you buy the kit, I think it may come complete with clutch thus the higher cost. I am guessing. The Titan on the other hand does come with clutch pack or Rotor clutch for 174.99............... To buy the Honda with Clutch pack will be well over 300 and has the governor carb which will need to be over come for top end performance and oil alert which will need to be disabled as well.

motorbiker · #10 (**permalink**) 09-14-2009, 04:50 PM

I see now. They want you to buy an adapter so you don't have to cut the Honda engine shaft too ?

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That is why the Honda engine sits so far out on the left and is turned a little.

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