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Old 10-21-2008, 06:19 PM
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Currently in the process of installing my chinese motor that arrived today and it became readily apparent that the lack of instructions included in my shipping box is what is making me lack a complete project today. I have been reading a lot and a lot of my questions have already been asked and answered but I have not been able to find the answers to these questions.

1. I have some parts that I have no idea what in the world they are. Could the collective help me identify them? (I know: the chain tensioner, the sprocket cover, the CDI, and the fuel tube. The other stuff I have no clue: The copper piece with a screw, the circular metal tube with 4 holes,the springs, and the plate with 3 hole and a bolt in it.)

2. The chain, I would assume that the nut holding the sprocket on the motor would have to be removed for the chain to be successfully added on, and I need to buy a chain break to re-size the chain. N'est pas?

3. Before starting the motor for the first time should I take out the spark plug and and put some oil in there or would that be excessive with the oil already in the gas?

4. Anyone like to come and drink a few beers while giving good advice? (Austin, TX)


Thanks guys, sorry to be such a noob.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:21 PM
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Pictures! Start.


Mounted


Leftovers

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Old 10-21-2008, 06:28 PM
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1. I have some parts that I have no idea what in the world they are. Could the collective help me identify them? (I know: the chain tensioner, the sprocket cover, the CDI, and the fuel tube. The other stuff I have no clue: The copper piece with a screw, the circular metal tube with 4 holes,the springs, and the plate with 3 hole and a bolt in it.)
the copper piece with a screw is for your clutch cable, it's a cable stop. holds the clutch cable tight in the clutch arm
the circular metal tube with 4 holes is for removing the spark-plug
the plate with 3 hole and a bolt in it is called a 'large frame adapter' and requires drilling a hole in the frame of your bike to mount the motor. I would NEVER drill a hole in a bike frame as there are other better ways to mount the motor in a large frame bike.

The chain, I would assume that the nut holding the sprocket on the motor would have to be removed for the chain to be successfully added on, and I need to buy a chain break to re-size the chain
there are a couple ways to get the chain in, I remove the cover on the magneto and use a socket wrench on that bolt to turn the motor and feed the chain through. Yes you will need to break the chain to get it to the proper size.


Before starting the motor for the first time should I take out the spark plug and and put some oil in there or would that be excessive with the oil already in the gas?
I've not heard of anyone doing that and didn't do it myself. I think it'll be fine without the extra oil there.

Anyone like to come and drink a few beers while giving good advice?
sorry I'm in Memphis TN and prefer my bud in a bowl not a bottle ;-)
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:43 PM
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Haha, never heard that last line before that is amusing. Have you ever seen Willie Nelson play? Well that answers a lot, thank you so much. I have yet to go to the store and get the chain break, so that is next and the only thing I have left is the springs. Where in the world do they go?

Another thing that is bothering me is that the sprocket for the rear tire (44t), when I mounted it, it did not seem very centered, and when I got it centered I am fairly certain that it will not stay there for long. How did y'all do it?
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the rear sprocket is VERY tricky, it's also important to get it centered and fairly straight, not much 'wobble' to it. just continue to work with it until it's right.
the springs are much easier
the bigger spring goes on the clutch cable housing next to the motor, on the right side of the bike, the smaller spring is the clutch return spring and goes on the cable between the clutch arm and the housing stop that's screwed into the motor under the carb.

I saw Willie play a free concert at the University of Memphis about 8-19 years ago. Who doesn't love Willie? Have you heard Toby Keiths song "I'll never smoke **** with Willie again"
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dupe post duh
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:16 PM
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I have a manual, its a pdf file but its too large to send through this forum! I could pm you and send it to you e-mail.
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:48 PM
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The Spooky Tooth site has some reasonably good instructions as well. Beleive me if you had received the "Chinese-English" instructions that these engines normally come with you wouldn't have been any better off than you are now!

Example: "At the ends of the handle of the clutch, please ensure keep a certain free space, generally 2-3 mm."

It doesn't get any better either. Good luck and do not expect for a moment that your first install will go smoothly! Just keep trying and asking questions until it works! That's why we hang out here.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:09 AM
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That makes more sense now, god forbid that there are extra parts. My father always told me that it's good luck to have spare parts.... it is just more efficient engineering when you can put it together without all the parts

I would love to have the actual instruction manual that outlines the correct way to install everything. Literally there were 6 numbered instructions for the entire thing. "Put engine on bike and mount." that does not help me.
My email is: inkstom@gmail.com

It went smoother than expected, which is not saying much but it is a blessing. I bought the chain break tool today, so the only thing lacking is the gasoline. Is sizing the chain difficult? I watched the video by the bicycle tutor about the chain break but I don't want to screw it up.

As for the carburetor: what should the settings be for the carb? I am sure as well there are tutorials out there for this, so I will do the research.

I really like you guys, helpful without the banter... it's nice and refreshing for a change. "I'll never smoke **** with Willie again, my party's all over before it begins. In the fetal position..."

Rumor has it these bikes generate power of 6v, but how many amps? If they produce a couple of amps, where can I get a 6v headlight?
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Old 10-22-2008, 04:53 AM
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Try some tips from this site:
ZBOX MOTOR FITTING INSTRUCTIONS
ZBOX TIPS AND FEEDBACK

And if you're worried about the rear sprocket not centered, then try the shifter kit from Sick Bike Parts found on the upper left corner. But you might find it even more confusing with more parts.

I used a nylon hose, slit it lengthwise, put it inside the hole of the sprocket to act as a spacer between sprocket and hub. It does not totally put it in center, but it does prevent the sprocket to wobble too often.
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