Lets do it

deacon · #11 (**permalink**) 11-10-2009, 03:15 PM

my thoughts exactly.... I looked at a pocket bike motor to pull my scooter wheel on top of the bike wheel drive system. They don't come with exhaust or gas tank. I think I can pick up a gas tank from the local guy for about fifteen bucks but I have no idea about an exhaust system. I think I'm just gonna hang in with the emotors for now. I might go back to fume spewing soon though.

There should be a system with the best of both kinds of motors. Too bad there isn't. Ebikes are always going to have a definitive limit on range, unless there was some kind of national battery exchange program. Their problem is range. My gas bike's big problem was so many maintenance things you needed to do to ride it even ten miles. If I didn't check a lot of different things, I could easily walk home. I am serious I used the bike very little but I know I had issues with it almost every ride. Nothing serious just loose bolts, out of gas a couple of times, clogged fuel lines, chain falling off, the dreaded tensioner going through the rear spokes, all kinds of little things. Nothing really serious just always some little thing.

The ebike is more forgiving because there is much less vibration, but there is that range thing hanging over my head. I don't use it much or go far but if I wanted to go to auto fasteners for a special nut or bolt, it is too far.

I guess something will come along sometime that will resolve all the issues. A bike that runs on banana peals.

**Norman** · #12 (**permalink**) 11-10-2009, 05:03 PM

Deacon
I haven't done it but a gas engined bike with a front electric hub motor would be neat along with the stock pedals you'd have 3 chances to make it home unless you have a flat.
OR front wheel gas friction drive with rear wheel gas drive or electric lot of combos to mess with
or a trike with the combos the trike would be able to haul heavy battries even a briggs engine
on a trike with it covered by a box and very quiet muffler the box can double as a place to haul stuff plus cover up the engine. I still want to do a front wheel powered by pedals and rear wheel by china
2-stroke recumbent bike with a seat with a back rest. I have a recumbent in the stalled works due to not wanting to spend money on it for wheels and good brakes would not take much to finish just being a cheap skate. I need to go yard saleing see if I can find me some bike parts. I need a 5 to 7 speed rear sprocket cluster for the recumbent I don't know what brand the rear wheel is but I might get lucky some time, wish the city dump would allow me to look there as they get broke bikes regularly.
I also need a set of the late style side pull brakes all the parts cut off a bike so I can weld them on and brake levers I've got the brake cables made that is the easy part. Finding a good donor bike is what I need to do or go buy one at wally world.

deacon · #13 (**permalink**) 11-10-2009, 05:19 PM

They have a good bike thrift show here. Or a thrift store with a good selection of bikes. At all times there are ten to twenty on their porch. I buy a bike there for ten bucks just for the wheels and sprockets sometimes. I was able to test ten bikes that way for about a hundred bucks over the two years we have been doing this. I found the right size for me, with a couple of possible twists even, so it has been great.

The faux trike I have will haul those heavy batteries. I think I am just pretty tired of messin with ebikes lol. Looking for a new challenge. I have a great drive system and it's just a matter of getting the platforms to operate well.

**Bikeguy Joe** · #14 (**permalink**) 11-11-2009, 08:37 AM

For any viable electric vehicle, the country would need charged swappable and universal batteries, available with the swipe of your money card.

**Bikeguy Joe** · #15 (**permalink**) 11-11-2009, 08:38 AM

Imagine a crash with 50 lbs of Li-Po batteries on board! Oh the fireball! Oh the eco-nightmare!!!!

Oh, the humanity.

deacon · #16 (**permalink**) 11-11-2009, 08:56 AM

Oh my god look at that falling from the sky. Er sorry shades of the Hindenburg there.

yes I have felt that way about the swap system. You would still need at least forty miles of real riding in car or bike before you needed to swap or you would never get anywhere out of town. Most people could use an e car or bike for the commute to work, but visiting grandma would be a problem.

Also those guys with their claims of range are so full of it. If I wanted to pedal 90% why bother with a motor at all. I want a 10% or less pedal and then you drop down to about 25% of their claims. I want ten miles of 90% motor use range. For that I need a minimum of 30 ah sla. I might be able to get it with 20ah liposuction batteries. Only because the energy in a sla battery falls out in the first 25% of battery use and the lithograph batteries, they claim, are constant output. At least that's how I read it.

I"M GLAD somebody moved this it was getting off subject pretty far in the other thread, but I hated to see it die.