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Old 03-04-2009, 11:32 PM
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second half of Founders Principles of Liberty::::

Principle 15 - The highest level of prosperity occurs when there is a free-market economy and a minimum of government regulations.

Prosperity depends upon a climate of wholesome stimulation with four basic freedoms in operation:

1. The Freedom to try.
2. The Freedom to buy.
3. The Freedom to sell.
4. The Freedom to fail.

Principle 16 - The government should be separated into three branches .

"I call you to witness that I was the first member of the Congress who ventured to come out in public, as I did in January 1776, in my Thoughts on Government ... in favor of a government with three branches and an independent judiciary. This pamphlet, you know, was very unpopular. No man appeared in public to support it but yourself." - John Adams

Principle 17 - A system of checks and balances should be adopted to prevent the abuse of power by the different branches of government.

"It will not be denied that power is of an encroaching nature and that it ought to be effectually restrained from passing the limits assigned to it." - James Madison

Principle 18 - The unalienable rights of the people are most likely to be preserved if the principles of government are set forth in a written Constitution.

The structure of the American system is set forth in the Constitution of the United States and the only weaknesses which have appeared are those which were allowed to creep in despite the Constitution.

Principle 19 - Only limited and carefully defined powers should be delegated to government, all others being retained by the people.

The Tenth Amendment is the most widely violated provision of the bill of rights. If it had been respected and enforced America would be an amazingly different country than it is today. This amendment provides:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Principle 20 - Efficiency and dispatch require that the government operate according to the will of the majority, but constitutional provisions must be made to protect the rights of the minority.

"Every man, by consenting with others to make one body politic under one government, puts himself under an obligation to every one of that society to submit to the determination of the majority, and to be concluded [bound] by it." – John Locke

Principle 21 - Strong local self-government is the keystone to preserving human freedom.

"The way to have good and safe government is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly the functions he is competent [to perform best]. - Thomas Jefferson

Principle 22 - A free people should be governed by law and not by the whims of men.

"The end of law is not to abolish or restrain, but to preserve and enlarge freedom. For in all the states of created beings, capable of laws, where there is no law there is no freedom. For liberty is to be free from restraint and violence of others, which cannot be where there is no law." – John Locke

Principle 23 - A free society cannot survive as a republic without a broad program of general education.

"They made an early provision by law that every town consisting of so many families should be always furnished with a grammar school. They made it a crime for such a town to be destitute of a grammar schoolmaster for a few months, and subjected it to a heavy penalty. So that the education of all ranks of people was made the care and expense of the public, in a manner that I believe has been unknown to any other people, ancient or modern. The consequences of these establishments we see and feel every day [written in 1765]. A native of America who cannot read and write is as rare ... as a comet or an earthquake.” John Adams

Principle 24 - A free people will not survive unless they stay strong.

"To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." – George Washington

Principle 25 - "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations -- entangling alliances with none."- Thomas Jefferson, given in his first inaugural address.

Principle 26 - The core unit which determines the strength of any society is the family; therefore the government should foster and protect its integrity.

"There is certainly no country in the world where the tie of marriage is more respected than in America, or where conjugal happiness is more highly or worthily appreciated.” Alexis de Tocqueville

Principle 27 - The burden of debt is as destructive to human freedom as subjugation by conquest.

"We are bound to defray expenses [of the war] within our own time, and are unauthorized to burden posterity with them.... We shall all consider ourselves morally bound to pay them ourselves and consequently within the life [expectancy] of the majority." – Thomas Jefferson

Principle 28 - The United States has a manifest destiny to eventually become a glorious example of God's law under a restored Constitution that will inspire the entire human race.

The Founders sensed from the very beginning that they were on a divine mission. Their great disappointment was that it didn't all come to pass in their day, but they knew that someday it would. John Adams wrote:

"I always consider the settlement of America with reverence and wonder, as the opening of a grand scene and design in Providence for the illumination of the ignorant, and the emancipation of the slavish part of mankind all over the earth."

I once again commend these to you. Freedom-loving citizens, young and older, find that memorizing these principles proves to be a valuable asset in their defense of our liberty.

Sincerely,

Earl Taylor, Jr.
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I have to agree with you Lenny, when you mention greedy men. Falls in line with "The love of money is the root of all evil". Great link BTW. It seems to me that all of this is only history repeating itself in the sense of man choosing to serve God, only to have Satan right along side and fighting to bring it down.

This country isn't any different, in those terms. Our founding fathers knew what was going on or what could go wrong only because it has always been prevalent throughout history.

I sense that even as the foundations were laid to build a republic in this country, that other undesirable plans by various groups were also being laid. It's that old trickle effect that slowly seeps it's way in, unnoticed, until one day we see that something is really out of whack!

In my opinion, and I could be very wrong, but I don't believe this country will ever be what it once was. I believe we are going to witness a cataclysmic meltdown of society as we know it and this country will never be able to recover from it.

When will this happen? I couldn't tell you, but I do know what is written about these days and it's not a pretty sight! Chaos, high crime, food shortages, etc.

What can I say to all this? The Bible says, "Two will be in a field, one will be taken, the other left. Two will be at a grain mill, one will be taken, the other one left. Two will be in bed, one will be taken and the other one will be left".

Bring it on, I've been ready for 26 years!
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Bring it on indeed.
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No matter where it ends, sometimes the end is enough. I think...
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I've heard David Barton speak, as well as others, and what is being taught in our schools is seriously lacking in terms of the big picture IMO. Another good site for some general info on the founding of our country, WallBuilders | Presenting America's forgotten history and heroes, with an emphasis on our moral, religious, and constitutional heritage.
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Without getting into the political or religious aspects of this.... look for a high inflation rate soon and the freezing of wages by employers as a way to stay in business.

Inflation is what will make the real change in out lives, I predict. Even when employment is high again, the real value of work will be driven down by it. The pressure of so much money being printing not tied to gdp will drive up the price of everything.

I went to home depot to buy some wing nuts. A dollars worth of wing nuts are now three bucks due to creative packaging. It is the sign of things to come.
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I love what I have heard of David Barton and Wall Builders. Deacon, I cannot separate out morality and religion from politics or finance, as it is morality that has collapsed our financial systems and allows politicians to be a major part of that collapse.Government allowed the greed to go unchecked on wall street and even fed the problem with rules to force loans to people who could not pay. Government said AIG could cover all faults and now we are bailing them out every 6 months. When we were young, government said we needed to take God out of schools (1950's and 60's) and did so effectively and has replaced God and with Secular Humanism. Children now are taught to worship the creation and disrespect the Creator.

Please do get ready for huge inflation and then a world currency to be offered to solve problems attached to a world court and police that makes the UN look like a pacifist orgainzation and not the perpetrator of genocide all over the world it is. Just remember Croatia, Somalia, Ethiopia and other more recent and distant UN fiascos. We gave up freedom for a promise of security and as Ben Franklin said:
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Let's not give up more of our Liberties!!! I am sure it will not reestablish the wealthy country our over inflated stock market pretended we were. We may need to tighten our belts, but that is part of why some of us use these beautiful bikes. And certainly do not give up prayer and religion as God was the reason for America's rise to greatness once and only He can help us rise again.
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