Conservitive consortium of MBers

**Bikeguy Joe** · #11 (**permalink**) 06-11-2009, 02:48 PM

Even if, say, a seller come here with a new item, and it's the same old same old, or a P.O.S., it doesn't last long.

deacon · #12 (**permalink**) 06-12-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bikeguy Joe

I think most bad info is weeded out by everyone on the forum, and B.S.'ers either learn or disappear.

Then how come I'm still here lol...

I always thought that there should be an easy to find list of GOOD information. The problem I always saw was the impossible task of making good information easy to find. When the heading were made and the posts were few it was easy to find things. As the site grew more and more information got pushed to the bottom of the list. I am guilty of putting frivolous things on the board. Those posts stay near the top for a while and then the good information is just pushed lower and lower. I know the mods try to keep the good stuff available but it's almost impossible to keep it current.

Even if you set up stickies they get so long its cumbersome. Maybe there is some way you could mark the really useful post so people won't waste time reading my kind of posts. Some icon by the tittle. Let the Mods decide if the informtion is worth marking or not. Especially since they read them anyway.

goat herder · #13 (**permalink**) 06-12-2009, 01:20 PM

How about a bonified trouble shooting tree for our problems kinda weans it all out for the repetitive stuff! As a mechanic I have read through many. They are a awesome tool and go way past even general here say in a shop!!

goat herder · #14 (**permalink**) 06-12-2009, 01:21 PM

Coming generic problems solved with less arguing!! Now thats conservative It kills the bad personalities that spring up with absolute fact!!Man that is simple!

goat herder · #15 (**permalink**) 06-12-2009, 01:31 PM

More time and energy would only lead to more creativity!

Dan · #16 (**permalink**) 06-15-2009, 12:08 AM

Sounds great GH. I don't think I have ever seen one. I googled it but am not finding much. Could you post an example?

goat herder · #17 (**permalink**) 06-15-2009, 01:41 AM

2000 Lincoln Navigator Air Suspension Pump Troubleshooting Tree (Part 3) your right I just googled it not much examples heres one. Type this in your google browser
Thermo Top - Troubleshooting Tree
Heres a good example!

Dan · #18 (**permalink**) 06-16-2009, 09:47 AM

That is a fantastic idea GH. Really. Would save massive amounts of typing and bandwidth.

goat herder · #19 (**permalink**) 06-18-2009, 07:24 AM

Its just some glimpse to reality? really its is a **** of a task I would gladly take it on for a good fight! Not the kind that causes mischief just less distraction! My goodness this has been an awesome forum!!! The thought and the oblivious for more intelligence not really that way just more diligence! I have become a fun typer really because of here!! By far.........Typing and checking is learning! This is what a forum is about.... Lets grow on good stuff! LOL

Creative Engineering · #20 (**permalink**) 06-21-2009, 11:23 AM

Excellent ideas guys!

Dan, Tom:

It's the old saying: Ya gotta take the chaff with the wheat.

Athough it is frustrating to see posts that contain, sometimes, ludicrous advice, and misinformation: it is inevitable on a forum with so many members. "Good grief" is my standard response when it goes off the deep end technically. I get a lot of emails and PM's asking for the low down on certain topics without the BS. The problem with this is that the general forum does not get to benefit from the answer. I refuse to argue over the obvious in a public forum. I simply don't have time! Some posts are written so poorly that it is difficult to even extract the intent, much less help!

Part of the fun is building, modifying, and finding innovative ways to overcome flaws that are just part of the whole experience. These bikes are not an engineered, finished assembly. If they were, the forum would likely be very boring.

Not to be the least bit insulting, but MB's are a cobblers paradise. I think if we all digress and realize that we are all cobblers at different levels, it is easier to accept the crazy antics of the beginner cobbler. Some have a hard time tying thier shoes...others can make fine shoes from scratch.

I feel like it is very important "not" to try and solve this by implementing rules. I realize no one has suggested rules...but that seems to be the standard way of dealing with a lot of this on other forums.

Joe is right:

For the most part bad information is corrected and worthless product offerings will dissappear all on thier own. It really is an ominous job to keep a forum stable...especially with so many members and personalities.

GH: Excellent idea!!! A definitive trouble-shooting guide is really needed.

The question; how do you use the knowledge you have gained by actually building MB's and solving problems without disrupting the general forum. You don't want to seem overpowering, nor do you want to get lost in the shuffle.

I have an idea!

How about a heading under "motorized bicycle", something like "The Pro Shop"

This would be a membership only topic area for those who have built a few bikes and know what they are talking about...In other words the ability to post or create threads under this heading would be by invitation only.

Invitation to the Pro Shop should be limited only to those who really have experience and can refrain from posting thoughts and theories, or product offerings just for the sake of using a large audience.

For example: I would not interfere with another pro who was trying to help with a rag joint installation by hawking my hub adapter as it is already obvious that the product exists. On the other hand, I don't want another pro interjecting with "The rag joint is a beautifull thing", if I'm trying to spare a newbie a lot of grief. Common sense, and respect for each other among those in the pro shop should drive the written material for the benefit of the forum.

If a thread in any of the forums is going off the deep end technically, it can be expanded on by a member of the pro shop by creating a similar named thread for all to read that is no-nonsense because it is posted in "The Pro Shop".

This may seem redundant, but it is a way for those who have been there, done that, to help others without getting lost in the shuffle. Think of it as a live "Classic instruction" section. There will be fewer posts that should contain zero BS for other members to look up.

There is a psychological benefit to this too...an invitation to the pro shop will be the "new" goal to attain instead of a high post count. It could prevent a lot of usless posts on the forum as a whole without having to resort to rules or any sort of other censorship.

Just a thought on a Sunday morning before I get back to making tooling for clutch pads.

Jim