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Old 09-02-2008, 07:34 PM
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So Scribbles are you saying they told you can just ride the bike with out registering it? For that is not what I’ve gone through. I also went to the state police, DMV and everyone else that you can think of. Finally got my bike pasted at an enhanced inspection station and all papers and photos finished. It is all pending in Harrisburg right now.
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Old 09-03-2008, 01:27 AM
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let me know how it goes with that DOT approval crapola... also let me know if the pass it and if you can the number of the guy who inspected your bike i would like to ask him some questions about the inspection.
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:05 PM
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So Scribbles are you saying they told you can just ride the bike with out registering it? For that is not what I’ve gone through. I also went to the state police, DMV and everyone else that you can think of. Finally got my bike pasted at an enhanced inspection station and all papers and photos finished. It is all pending in Harrisburg right now.
Hi,

Can you post what you had to go through? I understand that in order to be registered in PA, it must be titled. In order to get titled, it needs a VIN. Since this is a bicylce, how did you get a VIN and how did you get a title? What forms were required to be filled out?

What paperwork had to be submitted to Harrisburg?

Thanks,

Ken
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:48 PM
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The fact sheet says something about motorized pedal cycles, but I don't really see any definition. All I can say is what I have does *not* fit the state's definition of a moped.
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Old 09-10-2008, 02:15 PM
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The fact sheet says something about motorized pedal cycles, but I don't really see any definition. All I can say is what I have does *not* fit the state's definition of a moped.
My understanding is the term MOPED is an abbreviation for a MOtorized PEDalcycle

From the PA Fact-Sheet
MOPED
DEFINITION: A motor-driven cycle equipped with operable pedals, a motor rated no more than 1.5 brake horsepower, a cylinder capacity not exceeding 50 cubic centimeters, an automatic transmission, and a maximum design speed of no more than 25 miles per hour, or an electric motor-driven cycle equipped with operable pedals and powered by an electric battery.
Link here.

Motorized pedalcycles are differentiated from other types of motorized devices. Devices without pedals generally can't be registered, titled, insured, etc. and can only be driven on private property.

Pennsylvania is very clear on that. Here is a link to regulations governing motorized scooters.

Regards,

Ken
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:33 AM
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I think we ought to petition Pennsylvania to change mopeds to not be required to be titled. They can keep the requirements for insurance and registration, but given that many small towns in Pennsylvania do not have adequate transportation, the motorized bicycles, or mopeds as the state calls them could be a source of potential revenue for licensing and they could make it easier on all of us by not having ridiculous requirements.

So, who's for writing their state representative? (Although an answer I got from a state trooper said they were legal. There seems to be some confusion on this point.)
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Old 10-23-2008, 04:29 PM
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Though I would up date everyone. Been nine weeks and my title paper work is still floating around Harrisburg. The only thing the Tag place has been able to tell me is that the check has been cashed and it hasn't been denied yet.
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Old 10-23-2008, 11:02 PM
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nice bike man make sure you let us know if you get it i stop trying when i got to school but i would still love to get a plate... could you maybe give me a step by step of your progress so far...
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Old 11-01-2008, 02:53 PM
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Yodabob,

Any update on the registration? BTW, how much did you pay for the enhanced inspection?

Scribbles,

Any update on your path, without registration?
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:27 PM
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The enhanced inspection cost $260.00. The notary and state paper work is $60.00 so far. Just got back a preliminary rejection the other day. Must submit something from engine manufacture as to the speed the vehicle will go with the engine. Which makes no sense since it is all determined by the gearing. Also they what a details on how it was built. I've come this far, so I’m not done yet. I’ll keep everyone up dated.
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