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| | | | Laws and Legislation Share you knowledge of the laws pertaining to your state on motorized bicycling in this forum | California Discussion at Motorized Bicycle Engine Kit Forum in the Laws and Legislation forum. today i went down to the DMV,and got a copy of the Motorcycle handbook, and looked in there, and ...  | | 
08-29-2008, 12:28 AM
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| | California today i went down to the DMV,and got a copy of the Motorcycle handbook, and looked in there, and what it says regarding our creations  is that they are exempt from registration,insurance,and plates, and that we have to be 16,and have a helmet . that's it. i' also asked the supervisor over there at the DMV, and she looked it up for me, and she told me that what is said in the book is true and to keep a copy of the handbook in my back pocket when i ride.
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08-29-2008, 12:36 AM
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| | Re: California Can you scan it, & post it here? | 
08-29-2008, 12:45 AM
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| | Re: California
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08-29-2008, 01:05 AM
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| | Re: California Be careful. A registration person at DMV does not always know about licensing. Technically, the MB's should be registered as a home built vehicle with the Application for Title and Registration. The bikes were not designed to be a "motorized bicycle" or "moped" so they "could" fall in a home built category.
The Sheriff or PD can pull you over and ask for an M2 License which is a moped/scooter license.
My dad worked for the DMV and he says that the registration person you talked to is correct and the license person could be correct. But it does depend on the officer who pulled you over if he knows what you're riding. Rule of thumb when I ride is not to attract unwanted attention by speeding or loud noises. Follow traffic laws and we would have been able to avoid any tickets in CA. Rumor has it though that starting January, stricter laws will be initiated in CA for motorized bicycles.
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08-29-2008, 01:09 AM
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| | Re: California Quote:
Originally Posted by ebmvegan Be careful. A registration person at DMV does not always know about licensing. Technically, the MB's should be registered as a home built vehicle with the Application for Title and Registration. The bikes were not designed to be a "motorized bicycle" or "moped" so they "could" fall in a home built category.
The Sheriff or PD can pull you over and ask for an M2 License which is a moped/scooter license.
My dad worked for the DMV and he says that the registration person you talked to is correct and the license person could be correct. But it does depend on the officer who pulled you over if he knows what you're riding. Rule of thumb when I ride is not to attract unwanted attention by speeding or loud noises. Follow traffic laws and we would have been able to avoid any tickets in CA. Rumor has it though that starting January, stricter laws will be initiated in CA for motorized bicycles. | uh oh! more laws  i have a M1 licence so i should be fine if they pull me over. and i just thought about it...i have a M! but no class c so i can ride a Bike but not drive a car 
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08-29-2008, 01:12 AM
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| | Re: California Quote:
Originally Posted by the_edge150 uh oh! more laws  i have a M1 licence so i should be fine if they pull me over. and i just thought about it...i have a M! but no class c so i can ride a Bike but not drive a car  | It sucks with the possibility of more laws. But we do have it easier than some other places where mirrors and lights are mondatory.
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08-29-2008, 01:26 AM
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| | Re: California yeah at least we don't need those here. (the mirrors and lights)
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08-29-2008, 01:29 AM
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| | Re: California Quote:
Originally Posted by ebmvegan Rule of thumb when I ride is not to attract unwanted attention by speeding or loud noises. Follow traffic laws and we would have been able to avoid any tickets in CA. Rumor has it though that starting January, stricter laws will be initiated in CA for motorized bicycles. | Good rule of thumb! 
Now, what's this rumor you're talking about? | 
08-29-2008, 01:29 AM
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| | Re: California if you ride without mirrors i think your odds of being an old rider go way down. like wearing flip flops, it is your choice. | 
08-29-2008, 01:53 AM
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| | Re: California Quote:
Originally Posted by Easy Rider Good rule of thumb! 
Now, what's this rumor you're talking about? | My dad had mentioned that all motorized vehicles will need registration if the the new amendment passes legislation in CA. This will include go carts, go peds, and motorized bikes. Currently, a registered motorized bike or go ped will need one if it's over 50cc's (Currently, I am lying to any deputy or PD and saying mine is a 49cc. They don't really know).
Starting Jan, if it passes, all will need one. It's $18 and it's a one time registration fee for the vehicle and you are issued special plates. Along with the registration, an M2 license may be required.
My dad isn't too sure as he has been out of the loop and only heard it on passing. Dad is a believer in regulation by the DMV because it brings in money for the state  . We are seeing more and more motorized bicycles in town here and I will be surprised if the city doesn't tighten up.
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