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Old 07-06-2009, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: Ontario Canada, MTO info

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Originally Posted by Rockenstein View Post
POPS I DO NOT want to have an argument with you about the laws in BC BUT can I point out without you flaming me that when I looked at the vehicle definitions on the ICBC website and then checked out the BC Motor Vehicle act I think the guys that got busted were shafted. A bicycle modified with a gasoline engine kit does not fit into any of the ICBC vehicle definitions and as well a bicycle modified with a gasoline engine kit does not fit any of the definitions in the BC Motor Vehicle Safety Act. You mentioned one of the charges was "illegal thing on the road" ...is that an actual charge in BC? If so how they could be convicted on that is beyond me because because I see nothing in the BC MVSA that specifically makes a bicycle that's been modified with a gasoline engine kit illegal.

The definition of "cycle" in the BC MVSA is...

means a device having any number of wheels that is propelled by human power and on which a person may ride and includes a motor assisted cycle, but does not include a skate board, roller skates or in-line roller skates;

The definition of a MAC in the BC MVSA is...

(a) to which pedals or hand cranks are attached that will allow for the cycle to be propelled by human power,

(b) on which a person may ride,

(.c) to which is attached a motor of a prescribed type that has an output not exceeding the prescribed output, and

(d) that meets the other criteria prescribed under section 182.1 (3);


The definition of a motor vehicle in the BC MVSA is...

means a vehicle, not run on rails, that is designed to be self propelled or propelled by electric power obtained from overhead trolley wires, but does not include a motor assisted cycle;

The definition of a motorcycle in the BC MVSA is...

means a motor vehicle that runs on 2 or 3 wheels and has a saddle or seat for the driver to sit astride;


A bicycle modified with an 80cc engine kit is not a moped (LSM) as defined by the ICBC either when you read the ICBC's definition of one...


* Has no more than a 50 cubic cm engine displacement or 1.5 kilowatt motor rating
* Does not need clutching or shifting after the drive system is engaged
* Has a maximum speed on level ground of 70 km/h and weighs no more than 95 kilograms, excluding fuel and batteries
* Must have wheels that are 25.4 cm in diameter or more



Again POPS I'm not being malicious...I'm just pointing out what I'm reading and what I've read so far says to me the guys that got busted out there maybe got shafted and that's just not nice news to hear.

BC Motor Vehicle Safety Act

ICBC


Cheers
Rock


No offence taken

Your right!!

A HT. does not fit into any category that BC laws have.
Because they were rideing them on the road WITHOUT it being classified
in any category made them automaticaly guilty!

The only thing that can ride on the road here WITHOUT Plates,Lic,Ins. Etc. is
500 or less E/Bike so they all fell for NO Ins,Lic,Plate, Etc. and a vehicle that did
not comply to be legally on the road so they got charged with that too and had
their bikes confiscated!!!! They are REALLY SNARLIE here towards bikes!!!


Cheeers right back at ya...POPS
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