Yes I have to agree that I like the older style od the Moondog compared to the other. I had just happen to pick up two of them for 80 bucks on ebay back in the spring I think it was. They were close enough that I went and picked them up and saved a bundle. So far my favorite bikes of all the bikes I own. Took her out tonight and ran around 25 mph in 4 or 5th and its some much quieter now with the shift kit and the lower rpms.