i am amazed how big this really is. all the choices out thier the designs etc. about have the wife talked into letting me build one. you all do not realize how much i apreciate you telling about these motor bicycles. i am in northern ohio so winter time but i will have one and take my time building thru the winter and be ready for spring. thier is so much to learn. those whizzers are beautiful. they look like the harley davidson of motor bicycling